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3 reasons the polls missed Ted Cruz’s Iowa victory
Vox ^ | February 2, 2016 | Libby Nelson

Posted on 02/02/2016 6:14:48 AM PST by justlittleoleme

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I think after the IOWA caucuses, and Trump loses, we will start seeing the stories.... Donald Trump and why the polls where wrong.
1 posted on 02/02/2016 6:14:48 AM PST by justlittleoleme
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To: justlittleoleme

I can’t wait to see if he pulls the Awaken the Body of Christ schtick in NH or was it just a one off thing for Iowa.


2 posted on 02/02/2016 6:16:18 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: justlittleoleme

Cruz had a great ground game. Props to him.

Carson ‘dropping out’ might have helped him a couple of points.

Honestly, with Carson, Huckabee, and Santorum not in the race Cruz would have broken 30%. 70%+ of those votes would have gone to Cruz.

The GOPe got what they wanted. They have a narrative to bash Trump. They think Cruz will fade in the northeast and left coast.

Their man — RUBIO — moves up as Trump and Cruz kill each other off.


3 posted on 02/02/2016 6:18:19 AM PST by TigerClaws
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“62 percent of caucusgoers described themselves as evangelical or born-again” - That is amazingly high. If one looks at the history from 1976 to now, it seems something changed drastically in the Iowa GOP. Much more religious did very well 2008-2016. Mainstream/incumbent won 1976-2004.


4 posted on 02/02/2016 6:22:19 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: TigerClaws
Ted's playing pretty dirty pool;

Carson accuses opponents of 'lies and dirty tricks'

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/iowa-caucus-2016-live-updates/2016/02/ben-carson-iowa-2016-caucus-accuses-opponents-dirty-tricks-218603#ixzz3z1L08jBj

Implying Carson is quitting and would be a wasted vote on caucus night is in the same category as the shaming mailer.

@mitchellvii Its called fraud and dishonesty . pic.twitter.com/R9gAJhQsRr— Nice people 4 Trump (@rhc_gop) February 2, 2016


5 posted on 02/02/2016 6:22:37 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: TigerClaws

Strangely enough, I keep hearing of potential overlap (or switches if one drops out) between Cruz & Rubio voters. They really only share non-ideological traits (Hispanic, newbie Senator, religious).


6 posted on 02/02/2016 6:24:41 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: RummyChick

It wasn’t “schtick.”


7 posted on 02/02/2016 6:25:28 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: justlittleoleme

They did not remember Goldmann Sachs, the people Cruz
helped by initiating the vote on ObamaTRADE,
or know of Cruz’s planned dirty tricks against
Carson.


8 posted on 02/02/2016 6:25:35 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: RummyChick

Cruz is not Mr Personality but what you see is what you get. An Evangelical conservative with balls.


9 posted on 02/02/2016 6:25:38 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: TigerClaws

Cruz’s body of Christ routine won’t work next week. However, Cruz and trump will continue to smash each other. It’s gonna be trump winning, with Rubio right on his heels. The MSM is going to be out of their skull. It’s all setting itself up for the establishment just the way they want.


10 posted on 02/02/2016 6:26:26 AM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: RummyChick

Why are you making fun of Christianity? This was my favorite part of the FNC polling:
5% said Trump shared their values.
With Ted beating DT by 8 points head to head in NH I expect DT to have a big surprise 2/9.


11 posted on 02/02/2016 6:26:37 AM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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“Observers had been warning that Trump’s ground game — the network of volunteers and organizers doing the crucial, down-to-earth work of making sure supporters show up to the polls — was disorganized or nonexistent. On January 13, the New York Times’ Trip Gabriel called the campaign’s Iowa operation “amateurish and halting”:”

Anytime that comments about that subject were made on FR they were dismissed as BS, trolling, concern troll etc.


12 posted on 02/02/2016 6:26:40 AM PST by FewsOrange
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To: PghBaldy
If one looks at the history from 1976 to now, it seems something changed drastically in the Iowa GOP. Much more religious did very well 2008-2016. Mainstream/incumbent won 1976-2004.

And yet the State has voted Democrat in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections.

13 posted on 02/02/2016 6:26:56 AM PST by Drew68
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To: hillarys cankles

Exactly.

Trump will win but be damaged from Cruz. Cruz and Trump kill each other off state after state.

Rubio becomes the ‘he can win’ guy - just like Romney.

Fox news last night had a commentator call Rubio “He’s John F. Kennedy to Hillary’s Richard Nixon.”

All scripted.

Cruz and Trump should talk and call a truce.


14 posted on 02/02/2016 6:29:12 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: libbylu

Get real. I am not making fun of Christianity. I am making fun of Cruz pulling the stunt in Iowa like one of those TV guys.

As one Freeper said..reminded him of Peter Popoff.

We will see if he continues the Awaken the Body of Christ tour.


15 posted on 02/02/2016 6:30:32 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I can’t wait to see if he pulls the Awaken the Body of Christ schtick in NH or was it just a one off thing for Iowa.


Well since Cruz is the “consistent conservative” I’m sure his Holy Roller message won’t change at all in NH.


16 posted on 02/02/2016 6:32:46 AM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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To: jwalsh07

Cruz is not Mr Personality but what you see is what you get. An Evangelical conservative with balls.


Unless it’s TPA on the table and Goldman calls in their markers. Then Cruz is GOPe all the way.


17 posted on 02/02/2016 6:34:07 AM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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And that is exactly why I said I can’t wait to see if he continues the Awaken the Body of Christ tour.

Or was it just Peter Popoff pandering.

I have no doubt he is a Christian.

That is not the issue.


18 posted on 02/02/2016 6:34:15 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: FewsOrange

With no ground game Trump got 24%. Not bad:-)


19 posted on 02/02/2016 6:36:23 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: RummyChick

>> the Awaken the Body of Christ schtick

I pray that you’ll see — even if only in hindsight — that the (re)awakening of the Body of CHRIST is not a “schtick”.

And I pray fervently, and unashamedly, that the Body of CHRIST does experience another Great Awakening.

For America’s sake.


20 posted on 02/02/2016 6:36:28 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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