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Alleged Twin Cities ISIL recruits argue for 'combatant immunity'
StarTribune.com ^ | 2/4/16 | Stephen Montemayor

Posted on 02/04/2016 5:16:18 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

Five Twin Cities men accused of plotting to go to fight alongside ISIL in Syria are asking a federal judge to drop murder conspiracy charges on grounds that they have "combatant immunity" under both common and international law.

They say combatants are immune from criminal prosecutions for acts of war, including murder, against military targets.

The five -- Hamza Ahmed, brothers Adnan and Mohamed Farah, Abdirahman Daud and Guled Omar -- are scheduled to appear in federal court in Minneapolis next week for a hearing on that and other motions in the case, which is set to go to trial May 9.

The men were charged last year with conspiring to leave the United States to fight with the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). In October, the government filed a new indictment that added a charge of conspiracy to commit murder, which attorneys for the men say should not apply.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: isil; isis; muslims; somalis
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Oh, it's OK. ISIS is "organized" and "professional".

Huh?

1 posted on 02/04/2016 5:16:18 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Ask some SS men about that legal concept.


2 posted on 02/04/2016 5:18:02 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Apply Hitler’s Commando Order if they weren’t in full uniform at the time of the arrest.


3 posted on 02/04/2016 5:18:53 PM PST by PAR35
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

If they’re “combatants” they weren’t in uniforms....they can be considered spies and executed.


4 posted on 02/04/2016 5:20:01 PM PST by wny
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Boot them out of a plane, with a parachute and instruction manual. Over Somalia, I think, why should the Syrians have to deal with them?


5 posted on 02/04/2016 5:21:25 PM PST by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

These guys watched the Law And Order episode.


6 posted on 02/04/2016 5:22:52 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

They will lose, ISIS is not recognized under the Geneva Convention.


7 posted on 02/04/2016 5:23:14 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: PAR35

Why do I think that a certain MN member of Congress is going to get involved in this?

Unless he already is...


8 posted on 02/04/2016 5:24:21 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Get Ready)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Fine, court martial and execute them as non-uniformed spies, saboteurs, and terrorists.


9 posted on 02/04/2016 5:24:26 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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They say combatants are immune from criminal prosecutions for acts of war, including murder, against military targets.

If that's the way it works, then they are military targets, and we can summarily kill them with impunity.

10 posted on 02/04/2016 5:25:10 PM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Wait till the Crips and Bloods file their cases.


11 posted on 02/04/2016 5:25:25 PM PST by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Did Obama or Bill Clinton appoint the judge?


12 posted on 02/04/2016 5:25:42 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: wny

They are traitors to this nation and have admitted to their allegiance with the enemy.


13 posted on 02/04/2016 5:26:43 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: Robert DeLong

Of course they are, as mercenaries. They have no rights.


14 posted on 02/04/2016 5:29:16 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: heartwood

I was thinking more the Pacific garbage patch rather than Africa.


15 posted on 02/04/2016 5:29:17 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Combatants out of uniform? If I was a judge I would rule in their favor. I would send them out the rear of the courthouse to face a firing squad.


16 posted on 02/04/2016 5:29:43 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: wny

.45 rounds are cheap


17 posted on 02/04/2016 5:35:02 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

He’s involved, all right, he’s the main reason they’re here.
Slimey, anti American, scumbag.


18 posted on 02/04/2016 5:36:31 PM PST by Fireone (The future must belong to those who tell the truth about Islam.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Holy Crap. We are in bizarro world.
The Feds are saying these guys aren’t covered under the Geneva Conventions for the same reasons SCOTUS specifically shot down in 2006 and the US agreed to comply.

The defense for these guys says they are covered under the Geneva Conventions.

Seems like they should go to GITMO until that question is re-settled.


19 posted on 02/04/2016 5:37:34 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Let’s NEVER forget the do-gooder morons who brought Somalis into the country as “refugees.” What a mess they left us.


20 posted on 02/04/2016 5:40:01 PM PST by jumpingcholla34 (.)
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