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To: corkoman
Nope - no naturalization process was need for TC to be a citizen = NBC

So currently, the children of illegal aliens born in the U.S. are considered citizens.

Do you agree that illegal aliens have the right to pick who our citizenry will be?

They go through no "naturalization process". They just present the BC to the State Department and voila...they is The Americans.

Do you believe that?

The central question about being a Natural Born Citizen is loyalty. The European Monarchs routinely intermarried, swapped thrones and pranced around Europe making sure that only their gang would be in power...no matter whose country it was.

The Founders knew about that and made sure to prevent it.

If someone born elsewhere with one non-citizen parent is supposedly a "natural born citizen", why would Madison have bothered to carve out a special class within the Constitution? Such a person fits the profile exactly of a child born to a head of state who marries a foreigner in a marriage of political convenience.

You can make the argument that the shoe doesn't fit in Ted's case. His father at least became a citizen, but he let 40 years pass before he did so. It appears that his heart is still in Cuba, and with the Spanish Main. But he appreciates what the U.S. did for him, so he finally swore in.

That's nice. But uh, that's the sort of watered down loyalty that um...we're concerned with.

Ted will make a fabulous Senate Majority Leader. The schemer that he replaces will skulk off to his Kentucky redoubt to enjoy the millions he extorted. Good Riddance.

But we have millions of people still here who have only distant connections to foreign lands and peoples, and their loyalty is not under question.

For those legal eagles here, the point is this: a true NBC is a citizen both by Jus Soli and Jus Sanguinis. As we all know, Vattel took that a step further and said that the Jus Soli part had to include both parents.

It's not a heavy constraint. In Obama's case, it was violated, and we see in his racist xenophilia the consequences: he hates us, and imports those who he is really loyal to, while surrendering to their cruel overlords (think "Iran").

43 posted on 02/05/2016 7:55:13 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator
I agree with your post and your understanding of a "natural born" defined citizen, and I also agree with your take on one aspect of its exclusive underlying psychology.

However, you seem to be saying that Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen, but you also said: "Ted will make a fabulous Senate Majority Leader."

Is that belief in conflict with itself, given your understanding and the current reality of "Ted Cruz for President"?

If so, how to you rationalize around that conflict to support that belief?

67 posted on 02/05/2016 10:47:23 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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