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1 posted on 02/06/2016 5:02:50 AM PST by Kaslin
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bfl


2 posted on 02/06/2016 5:18:06 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Rubio is right to advise that, with any flat-tax, Republicans should press for a supermajority-vote requirement in the House and Senate to raise the rate.

That would take a constitutional amendment, and I think the chances of that happening are next to zero.

3 posted on 02/06/2016 5:19:47 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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No one’s better lower tax plan will EVER be implemented unless the GOPe truly gets booted out of the way.

It’s sad that my own party IS the problem.


4 posted on 02/06/2016 5:21:38 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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I can live with either Cruz or Trump's plan, but marcopolo has no plan except more of the same. Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina have good plans but neither have a prayer so it doesn't matter.

Ted Cruz is my first choice but I can live with Trump. My hope is they they {and all the FReepers} don't get so filled with hate and bile that they poison the well and marcopolo finds the magic route to India, and gets all the perfume and spices.

6 posted on 02/06/2016 6:03:37 AM PST by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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Surprised Conservatives are cool with Cruz’s plan to add a VAT tax. VAT is the worse sort of indirect tax. Sen Cruz needs to go back to the drawing board on that one.


7 posted on 02/06/2016 6:12:12 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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Likely Bernie Sanders, as he equally screws everyone.


8 posted on 02/06/2016 6:14:02 AM PST by doldrumsforgop
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One thing folks seem to forget -- the federal income tax was put into the Constitution by the 16th Amendment. Before we substitue a Flat Tax or whatever other tax, you have to repeal the 16th Amendment. Otherwise the damned politicians will hit you with an income tax AND a flat tax (or other tax) on the rest of your income. Greedy bastards they are, one and all.
9 posted on 02/06/2016 6:18:15 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Da)
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Any candidate offering a tax plan without also identifying the hundreds of billions of dollars in spending cuts needed to keep from expanding the deficit is only trying to fool us.


10 posted on 02/06/2016 6:18:34 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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This is the guy who developed/advised the flat-tax advocates in the race on their plans.

And it is a VAT and it is a bad idea.

Trump’s probably closest to having it right in terms of plan.


14 posted on 02/06/2016 6:26:10 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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I liked Carson’s plan, although I don’t know how he would implement any of his proposals since he wouldn’t even defend himself against Trump’s baseless attacks.

Cruz and Paul’s were both similar, and both would work for getting them passed through Congress. Paul is gone so that leaves Cruz.

Don’t see Trump doing anything to lower taxes since much of his proposals would increase debt and grow government.


15 posted on 02/06/2016 6:50:52 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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Carson has the fairest tax plan!


18 posted on 02/06/2016 8:47:26 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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https://www.tedcruz.org/tax_plan/

Cruz’s statement above says nothing about a VAT. Do we have a source for that claim?

VAT’s are poison. NRST, not so much... Neither of which apply to whats outlined at the above link.


19 posted on 02/06/2016 8:52:41 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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‘Fair’? What does FAIR have to do with ANY tax plan?? If services are to be paid, it should apply to ALL Citizens.

Any plan that DOESN’T abolish the 16th (IMO, null/void on its face) AND constrain the illegality of D.C.’s spending addition is no ‘plan’ to begin.

Lastly, at to my first point, ANY ‘income tax’, regardless is flat or progressive, is still a SLAVE tax. Any (C) suggesting or pushing otherwise should be disqualified out of the gate.

As typical though, NOTHING will be done to restore the People’s ability to NOT pay taxes. D.C. will continue to fiddle and tweak, never to release their iron fist upon the citizenry.


20 posted on 02/06/2016 9:02:37 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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Who of the Candidates Has Fairest Tax Plan of All?

Who cares?!?!?

The bills HAVE to be paid; one way or another!!

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Who has the biggest spending slashing knife would impress me!

28 posted on 02/06/2016 12:18:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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[Art.] Imports are taxed at the flat rate when they are brought into the U.S., ...

I'm beginning to smell a national sales tax/VAT tax.

Finally, here is why this is not a value-added tax like the ones in Europe. In Europe, the VAT has been an add-on tax to existing income and payroll taxes. The flat tax is a replacement for the corporate and payroll taxes.

It IS a VAT tax. A tax isn't a VAT unless the taxing authority collects other taxes as well? Argument FAIL.

Both Cruz and Paul are advocating a NMST. You know how that'll shake out -- it'll be tacked on to income taxes by the PTB. We'll be paying income taxes + VAT taxes designed to replace corporate taxes.

Deal-breaker. What the hell is Cruz doing, supporting scum like this?

One of the most unfortunate things that happened during the Reagan Administration was that George Bush (41) reaped a ton of patronage as his price for supporting Reagan in the general, instead of trying to submarine him like Rockefeller and Scranton did in 1964 to poor Barry Goldwater.

Bush got a Treasury appointment for Charls (no "E") Walker, one of the most notorious power lobbyists in "K" Street, who then used that post to lobby incessantly in public media (esp on PBS financial shows) for a VAT to replace the corporate income tax.

A sucker play to fleece the rubes. VAT/NMST hucksters always tell us that "customers pay all corporate taxes anyway, in the price". That isn't nearly as true as it would be if corporate taxes were simply shifted to the public to pay directly. It makes a world of difference, who is responsible for the revenue in the first place. Businessmen count on that difference being too subtle for the public to grasp, while they fleece us.

Who could induce Cruz to support a VAT/NMST?

Goldman Sachs, the Great Vampire Squid.

Damn it. Cruz is their boy after all.

Thanks for throwing a shadow on my support of Cruz. Slippery immigration proposal plus stealth VAT / NMST? We're screwed.

Trump's a liberal, Rubio's a RiNO butt-boy, and now Cruz is in their pocket, too, on immigration and tax policy.

It's obvious why they're pushing the NMST/VAT .... they'll need it when income-tax receipts begin to fall per-family, because immigrants have sandbagged everyone's comp.

We are so screwed.

32 posted on 02/06/2016 3:12:50 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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bkmk


38 posted on 02/06/2016 10:01:43 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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