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Trump: Reagan talked a good game but didn't deliver, Carter had guts (Art of the Deal)
Art of the Deal ^ | 1987 | Donald a Trump, Tony Schwartz

Posted on 02/06/2016 3:11:27 PM PST by ifinnegan

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To: Redmen4ever

“This was back in the days when Trump was a Democrat. That was when being a Democrat was a good thing.”

It was a good thing to be a Democrat in 1987?


41 posted on 02/06/2016 3:44:50 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Redmen4ever

Being a Rat has never been a good thing as long as I’ve been alive.


42 posted on 02/06/2016 3:46:57 PM PST by beandog (TrumperTantrum)
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To: heights
Reagan did give us the first amnesty, after 30 years I see what that has done to America, so I’m no longer such a fan.

Surprised to see such an ignorant post on FR that so far hasn't been corrected.

Reagan signed on to Simpson Mazzoli to "get along".

The act provided for the border to be finally sealed, and guess what, the freaking democrap traitors reneged on the deal.

This is why compromise never works, not to mention idiots like you come along and use it against us.

You sound like a DUmmie lib tard.

43 posted on 02/06/2016 3:47:49 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: shelterguy
I don’t know how he has been able to easily fool so many conservatives.

I do...an insatiable - even if irrational - hunger for "red meat".......and the carney can sure deliver in that arena.

44 posted on 02/06/2016 3:48:48 PM PST by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: ifinnegan

According to the voting record in New York Trump was a Republican since 1980.

Call the SOS in New York and verify this if you don’t believe me. I saw a statement from them answering this question.

Many people like Reagan, me, my wife, and lots of people from the northeast became Reagan Republicans.


45 posted on 02/06/2016 3:51:22 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: ifinnegan

I’ve brought it up a few times in the past. In Trump’s eyes Reagan was a successful conman and empty suit.

He does praise Reagan now, and I don’t think he’s lying when he does it. However, I think it is that conman image that Trump is praising. In his eyes Reagan used theater to get elected and manipulated the people into thinking he was great when he was in fact an empty suit with nothing behind his smile. Trump would love to fill those shoes.


46 posted on 02/06/2016 3:51:55 PM PST by Reaper19
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To: 4rcane
Trump is correct. I think honesty is hard for some people accept. Reagan fail to deliver on a lot of things e.g Shrinking the government and reducing debt

Well, he always had Demonrats running the Congress and they weren't like the RINO wussies of today. George W. had the best chance, with Republican control of Congress but he p*ssed the opportunity away.

47 posted on 02/06/2016 3:52:01 PM PST by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: MamaTexan
And the war on drugs.

FYI, that was Nixon, not Reagan.

48 posted on 02/06/2016 3:53:54 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: heights

Two other key things about that Amnesty. Bob Dole and George H. W. Bush were heavily supportive. At the time they thought it would help the Republicans win over the Hispanic vote. The same argument used by McCain and Bush II in 2005 and some “conservatives” along with the Gang of Eight.


49 posted on 02/06/2016 3:54:04 PM PST by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: Redmen4ever

You do realize Donald Trump was registered Democrat from 2001-2009? Sorry, but that excuse isn’t going to pass muster.


50 posted on 02/06/2016 3:58:52 PM PST by A Conservative Thinker
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To: ifinnegan

At the state level, especially in the South, yes most conservatives were Democrats. However, in the Presidental contests most voted Republican after 1968 except for Carter in 1976 and many for Clinton in 1992.


51 posted on 02/06/2016 3:59:59 PM PST by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
There is no rational argument for them being legalized or decriminalized.

What a ridiculous statement. There is nothing, NOTHING rational about the War on Drugs, including the fact that it's unconstitutional and gives the FedGov all sorts of excuses to trample liberties and interfere with everything.

At least the puritans of the early 20th century had the decency to pass a constitutional amendment. Today, you and the Left simply make up federal powers that don't exist.

52 posted on 02/06/2016 4:01:05 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: ifinnegan

Reagan’s biggest mistake was Sandra Day O’Connor and Anthony Kennedy.


53 posted on 02/06/2016 4:01:06 PM PST by Fast Ed97
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To: ifinnegan

I’m actually surprised it doesn’t seem like anyone has figured him out yet, but it’s not as you say. He has neither consistent liberal or conservative values. He says what he says out of convenience, because it’s the “hot” thing to say, the thing to say that gets the most attention. That’s his talent and that’s what he brings to the table, an uncanny ability to promote himself (or really what he thinks is important) by saying (and sometimes doing) things that are controversial AND are popular enough to succeed. (Most of the time)

The best example of this is his “work” which forced Obama to release his “long form” birth certificate. He’s the only one that was able to make such progress on that and it’s because he has the ability to tap into popular groundswells, popular notions that most don’t want to talk about because it’s contrary to the “polite” notions at the time, but are hugely popular in the common mindset.

So returning to what he said about Reagan. He said that he was “smooth” who “won over the American people”. Which is true but he also asked if there was “anything under that smile”. At that time it was popular for liberals especially to think of Reagan as a buffoon who had no substance. Bjt everyone (except for die hard supporters) always thought that liberal or conservative. But not too many (outside the media) were saying that, at least not in “polite” conversation. He tapped into that and took it to a new level. If there was Twitter back then he probably would have Tweeted it.

What does all this prove? It proves he has no real core of values that’s for certain. He has an extraordinary talent to promote what he believes is important to promote. The question everyone needs to ask themselves about him is: do I believe he’s still going to think illegal immigration, national security, and the debt are important things in a few months and years. He’s only going to take them on as long as he continues to believe they are important enough to worry about.

He’s not going to attack those problems because he has some core value that says he must.


54 posted on 02/06/2016 4:02:12 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

But we are failing the War of Drugs big time. We have wasted so much money housing Mary Jane users.....how stupid are we. And I never touched the stuff for real but I hate wasting money.


55 posted on 02/06/2016 4:03:56 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: ErnBatavia

There are issues where he is a moderate. However, I agree with his constant demonstrated support for this country, his ability to grow a business, his savvy to establish a successful reality show, his decisive as and ability to make tough decisions without equivocation. There is a better “conservative” but not a better overall person to lead than Trump.


56 posted on 02/06/2016 4:04:58 PM PST by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: georgiarat

I agree; you see left wing Democrats make the same proposals every year despite decades of demonstrable failures...flooding America with the third world masses from Mexico and Latin America only benefits those looking for an ever increasing supply of cheap laborers and the Democratic Party that’s all too willing to drop even the most basic standards of American citizenship (speaking English is a good example) while offering free government entitlements..and they vote Democrat 3 to 1 nationally.


57 posted on 02/06/2016 4:07:47 PM PST by A Conservative Thinker
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To: heights

Reagan, and later Bush, both made the mistake of taking sack of excrement demonrats at their word who subsequently back stabbed them. Come to think of it, in both their instances their major screwings came from now-servicing-demons Ted Kennedy...


58 posted on 02/06/2016 4:07:56 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: ifinnegan

Class, through and through.


59 posted on 02/06/2016 4:08:56 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: A Conservative Thinker

We know that the Donald was registered Republican beginning sometime in the 1980s. I am not aware that we know his registration prior to that. But we do know that he and his father were in close with the Brooklyn Democratic Party and, in particular, Mayor Abraham Beame. This is how I have him meandering D to R to I to D and then back to R.


60 posted on 02/06/2016 4:09:35 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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