Posted on 02/07/2016 1:49:19 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Won the debate? Maybe, maybe not. It’s subjective.
Won me over? No.
Just a couple of for instances.
TED CRUZ the indisputable winner of the Feb 6th debate. Christi 2nd.
Magna cum Laude Rafael cannot even add. Here is what he says Under the Cruz Simple Flat Tax, all income groups will see a double-digit increase in after-tax income. Let us repeat. ALL And the generally accepted meaning of all is all, assuming you are not operating on the Clinton definition of "is."
You cannot cut the tax rate on ALL Americans to 10% above 36,000 without collecting a vastly reduced amount of revenue, meaning that the deficit goes up even more.
Oh but he will cut spending you say. yes, he has a plan for that too. the Cruz plan re-institutes President Reaganâs Grace Commission to assess federal spending levels and evaluate areas of waste and fraud. Ted Cruz would appoint private-sector leaders to serve on a commission that, as President Reagan put it, would âwork like blood houndsâ to improve government efficiency. .
All good stuff, I am sure. Anyone ever try to count all the commissions already existing in Washington DC with private sector leaders telling the government what to do. Commissions aren't an answer. They are a cop-out. They are how guys who don't want to take the political heat kick the can down the road. See - I am doing something. I have appointed a blue ribbon commission. Top men! All of them!
And two years from now they publish a report and everyone yawns and it sits on a shelf collecting dust like the reports of all the other commissions ever appointed.
And lyin' head-inside-the-beltway Rafael knows that.
Ever hear Trump talk about a commission. No. He knows what leadership and accountability and getting something done means.
“Trump people here have their marching orders. They are pinged to show up like the deadly roach or mosquito on any thread favorable to Cruz.”
Do you actually believe that what you wrote is fact? Genuinely curious.
“What he’s done to his cult of supporters scares me.
I don’t know whether to compare them to Hitler’s followers or those of David Koresh.”
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You show so little ambition. Why not go full Lucifer in your accusations?
Well, the problem I have is that I while I have this feelin running down my leg that I will get rich if Trump is president, Cruz her has promised this rock-solid take it to the bank tax cut to 10% on everything over $36,000. How can I pass up a sure fire deal like that! Cars, yachts, girls .... can't pass that stuff up.
If you cannot remember them then the world’s master debater was not in fact very articulate.
Now what do I see? Clones of the Clintons, only Cruz's charm wears thin faster than Bill's did. heidi and Hillary, so many similarities.
I donât believe I can vote for Cruz. What heâs done to his cult of supporters scares me. I donât know whether to compare them to Hitlerâs followers or those of David Koresh. Itâs not normal.
Lame but that ends the pissing match you want.
Cruz want’s a flat income tax plus a 16% VAT. He calls it a flat business tax, but in reality it is a VAT, not an income tax.
Don't ever ever try to tell me again that Cruzers just want to debate the issues.
Projectile projection alert.
“TED CRUZ answered every question he was asked and expanded in depth, which may have been over your head.”
I must have been out “getting rid of my iced tea,” when that happened! Way to go Annie, you’re like Yebbie Boosh, you’re going to insult your way into all the hearts and minds here on FR! (s)
I think perhaps those tariffs in the early part of the 20th Century were a lot different than they would be today.
Now, other countries are imposing all sorts of tariffs on us, but we do not try to balance with our own. To balance is wisdom. To just try to make more money for a bankrupt country on the backs of other countries is destructive.
I dispute it. So you’re wrong. Nyah nyah.
“All good stuff, I am sure. Anyone ever try to count all the commissions already existing in Washington DC with private sector leaders telling the government what to do. Commissions aren’t an answer. They are a cop-out. They are how guys who don’t want to take the political heat kick the can down the road. See - I am doing something. I have appointed a blue ribbon commission. Top men! All of them!”
All very true, and very well said. It is political gamesmanship in the extreme to set up these “blue ribbon commissions,” instead of doing the hard work necessary to run the country.
A flat tax is not a VAT. You can keep saying it is, but it only makes you look silly.
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