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How Ted Cruz Could Deliver the Coup de Grace to Donald Trump
Intellectual Conservative ^ | February 7, 2015 | Ralph Benko

Posted on 02/07/2016 1:49:19 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: annieokie

Won the debate? Maybe, maybe not. It’s subjective.

Won me over? No.


101 posted on 02/07/2016 4:38:57 PM PST by Luircin (The difference between lesser evil and greater good is who gets schlonged in the end.)
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To: annieokie
Since Cruz is not over your head, perhaps you could tell us a couple of key Cruz proposals for our security and prosperity and why those are so much better than anything Trump has proposed.

Just a couple of for instances.

102 posted on 02/07/2016 4:47:52 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Luircin

TED CRUZ the indisputable winner of the Feb 6th debate. Christi 2nd.


103 posted on 02/07/2016 4:58:10 PM PST by annieokie
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To: bigbob
a few hours explaining the nuanced details of his wonky tax plan, it would devastate Trump? Right....

Magna cum Laude Rafael cannot even add. Here is what he says Under the Cruz Simple Flat Tax, all income groups will see a double-digit increase in after-tax income. Let us repeat. ALL And the generally accepted meaning of all is all, assuming you are not operating on the Clinton definition of "is."

You cannot cut the tax rate on ALL Americans to 10% above 36,000 without collecting a vastly reduced amount of revenue, meaning that the deficit goes up even more.

Oh but he will cut spending you say. yes, he has a plan for that too. the Cruz plan re-institutes President Reagan’s Grace Commission to assess federal spending levels and evaluate areas of waste and fraud. Ted Cruz would appoint private-sector leaders to serve on a commission that, as President Reagan put it, would “work like blood hounds” to improve government efficiency. .

All good stuff, I am sure. Anyone ever try to count all the commissions already existing in Washington DC with private sector leaders telling the government what to do. Commissions aren't an answer. They are a cop-out. They are how guys who don't want to take the political heat kick the can down the road. See - I am doing something. I have appointed a blue ribbon commission. Top men! All of them!

And two years from now they publish a report and everyone yawns and it sits on a shelf collecting dust like the reports of all the other commissions ever appointed.

And lyin' head-inside-the-beltway Rafael knows that.

Ever hear Trump talk about a commission. No. He knows what leadership and accountability and getting something done means.

104 posted on 02/07/2016 5:06:59 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
I listened intently, but do have a short memory (age), however that does not keep me from understanding at the time he spoke on the issues that he articulated them better than any one on that podium.
105 posted on 02/07/2016 5:09:17 PM PST by annieokie
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To: altura

“Trump people here have their marching orders. They are pinged to show up like the deadly roach or mosquito on any thread favorable to Cruz.”

Do you actually believe that what you wrote is fact? Genuinely curious.


106 posted on 02/07/2016 5:09:42 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Vote Tom Sawyer, because Sid is a sissy snitch and Tom gets the fences whitewashed.)
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To: altura

“What he’s done to his cult of supporters scares me.

I don’t know whether to compare them to Hitler’s followers or those of David Koresh.”

________________________

You show so little ambition. Why not go full Lucifer in your accusations?


107 posted on 02/07/2016 5:11:26 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Vote Tom Sawyer, because Sid is a sissy snitch and Tom gets the fences whitewashed.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Trump supporters are thinking Trump will make them rich

Well, the problem I have is that I while I have this feelin running down my leg that I will get rich if Trump is president, Cruz her has promised this rock-solid take it to the bank tax cut to 10% on everything over $36,000. How can I pass up a sure fire deal like that! Cars, yachts, girls .... can't pass that stuff up.

108 posted on 02/07/2016 5:17:29 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: annieokie

If you cannot remember them then the world’s master debater was not in fact very articulate.


109 posted on 02/07/2016 5:19:01 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AuntB
I thought Cruz started the campaign with a promise to depend on small donors and run a different kind of campaign, open and honest, small donors. Anyone who strays this far from that original persona is likely to succeed.

Now what do I see? Clones of the Clintons, only Cruz's charm wears thin faster than Bill's did. heidi and Hillary, so many similarities.

110 posted on 02/07/2016 5:19:19 PM PST by grania
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To: altura
I don’t believe I can vote for Trump. What he’s done to his cult of supporters scares me. I don’t know whether to compare them to Hitler’s followers or those of David Koresh. It’s not normal.

I don’t believe I can vote for Cruz. What he’s done to his cult of supporters scares me. I don’t know whether to compare them to Hitler’s followers or those of David Koresh. It’s not normal.

111 posted on 02/07/2016 5:20:18 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Lame but that ends the pissing match you want.


112 posted on 02/07/2016 5:30:08 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Dead Corpse

Cruz want’s a flat income tax plus a 16% VAT. He calls it a flat business tax, but in reality it is a VAT, not an income tax.


113 posted on 02/07/2016 6:18:05 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man St anding.)
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To: annieokie
pissing match

Don't ever ever try to tell me again that Cruzers just want to debate the issues.

114 posted on 02/07/2016 6:29:11 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It is fascinating what the imagination can do with wishful thinkers dedicated to ignoring facts.

Projectile projection alert.

115 posted on 02/07/2016 6:44:28 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: annieokie

“TED CRUZ answered every question he was asked and expanded in depth, which may have been over your head.”

I must have been out “getting rid of my iced tea,” when that happened! Way to go Annie, you’re like Yebbie Boosh, you’re going to insult your way into all the hearts and minds here on FR! (s)


116 posted on 02/07/2016 6:46:28 PM PST by vette6387
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I think perhaps those tariffs in the early part of the 20th Century were a lot different than they would be today.

Now, other countries are imposing all sorts of tariffs on us, but we do not try to balance with our own. To balance is wisdom. To just try to make more money for a bankrupt country on the backs of other countries is destructive.


117 posted on 02/07/2016 6:48:36 PM PST by amihow (l)
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To: annieokie

I dispute it. So you’re wrong. Nyah nyah.


118 posted on 02/07/2016 6:54:45 PM PST by Luircin (The difference between lesser evil and greater good is who gets schlonged in the end.)
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To: AndyJackson

“All good stuff, I am sure. Anyone ever try to count all the commissions already existing in Washington DC with private sector leaders telling the government what to do. Commissions aren’t an answer. They are a cop-out. They are how guys who don’t want to take the political heat kick the can down the road. See - I am doing something. I have appointed a blue ribbon commission. Top men! All of them!”

All very true, and very well said. It is political gamesmanship in the extreme to set up these “blue ribbon commissions,” instead of doing the hard work necessary to run the country.


119 posted on 02/07/2016 6:59:06 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Hugin

A flat tax is not a VAT. You can keep saying it is, but it only makes you look silly.


120 posted on 02/07/2016 7:44:40 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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