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Ted Cruz Is Not Eligible to Be President
Slate ^ | February 8, 2016 | Eris Posner

Posted on 02/09/2016 6:06:13 AM PST by C19fan

With Ted Cruz the victor of the first contest of the GOP nominating calendar, we can no longer avoid the question mischievously posed by Donald Trump: Is Cruz ineligible to be president? Cruz was born in Canada to an American mother and a Cuban father. The Constitution says that only a “natural born citizen” can be president. Is Cruz a natural born citizen? (You may recall that before he attacked Cruz on this front, Trump spent months flogging a ludicrous version of this critique against President Obama, who was actually born in the United States, unlike Cruz.)

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KEYWORDS: 2016; cruz; potus
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To: Mollypitcher1
The child must be born of TWO parents citizens and born on the soil of the United States.

Going be original intent, then only the father need be a citizen since in the founders time a woman acquired the citizenship of her husband. Applying 1788 American norms to Mrs Cruz, she became citizen of Cuba when she married Mr Cruz, a citizen of Cuba. So there is no way the child of Cubans born in Canada would be considered an U.S. NBC by our founders.

81 posted on 02/09/2016 7:20:29 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: PJBankard

As Cristy would point out:
“...there it is, they did it again.”
Yet another pathetic attempt to distract attention from the REAL issues.
Funny the Iowa voters didn’t see things the way Slate/Grayson/rump worshippers do.
Get over it, your god is nothing but a foul mouthed opportunist who has hoodwinked you into supporting his “plan” to save America.
But when the plan is questioned as to how he exactly intends to accomplish this ....crickets.


82 posted on 02/09/2016 7:20:39 AM PST by brickdds
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To: jpsb
Please cite for me the legislation that confers citizenship to children born in the USA to citizen parents, thanks.

Right here.

83 posted on 02/09/2016 7:22:21 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: jpsb
Cruz is a naturalized citizen.

Sorry but by law Cruz is a citizen at birth, AKA natural-born citizen.

84 posted on 02/09/2016 7:23:19 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp
It's natural law. There are no statutes.

Oh not again....

85 posted on 02/09/2016 7:24:20 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: C19fan

Rafael Edward Cruz is, at best, just as eligible to be President as Barack Hussein Obama.


86 posted on 02/09/2016 7:25:29 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Oh not again.....

It doesn't go away just because you wish to believe something else.

87 posted on 02/09/2016 7:27:09 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg

And what law makes Cruz a citizen-at-birth?


88 posted on 02/09/2016 7:29:41 AM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: DoodleDawg
Sorry but by law Cruz is a citizen at birth, AKA natural-born citizen.

I just sited for you the LEGISLATION that conferred citizenship on Ted Cruz. If LEGISLATION makes you a citizen you are BY DEFINITION a naturalized citizen.

From Wiki
Naturalization (or naturalisation) is the legal act or process by which a non-citizen in a country may acquire citizenship or nationality of that country. It may be done by a statute, without any effort on the part of the individual, or it may involve an application and approval by legal authorities.

The underlined applies to Ted Cruz.

89 posted on 02/09/2016 7:29:54 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: DoodleDawg

also says persons born in the U.S. are citizens and that must mean that they are naturalized too
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It does NOT mean that they must be naturalized too. It is quite simple that a person born of TWO parents CITIZENS and born on the soil of America has NO other claims on his allegiance. No other country can claim him either by blood or by soil. THAT is a “natural born citizen”..i.e. someone who CANNOT be anything other than American.


90 posted on 02/09/2016 7:31:16 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: DoodleDawg

By the wording which is defined in Vattel’s Law of Nations which itself was established within the constitution in Article I, Section 8 Clause 10. Vattel is also cited in the Declaration of Independence.


91 posted on 02/09/2016 7:35:22 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Declaratory Judgment

Statutory remedy for the determination of a Justiciable controversy where the plaintiff is in doubt as to his or her legal rights. A binding adjudication of the rights and status of litigants even though no consequential relief is awarded.

Individuals may seek a declaratory judgment after a legal controversy has arisen but before any damages have occurred or any laws have been violated. A declaratory judgment differs from other judicial rulings in that it does not require that any action be taken. Instead, the judge, after analyzing the controversy, simply issues an opinion declaring the rights of each of the parties involved. A declaratory judgment may only be granted in justiciable controversies—that is, in actual, rather than hypothetical, controversies that fall within a court’s jurisdiction.

A declaratory judgment, sometimes called declaratory relief, is conclusive and legally binding as to the present and future rights of the parties involved. The parties involved in a declaratory judgment may not later seek another court resolution of the same legal issue unless they appeal the judgment.

Declaratory judgments are often sought in situations involving contracts, deeds, leases, and wills. An insurance company, for example, might seek a declaratory judgment as to whether a policy applies to a certain person or event. Declaratory judgments also commonly involve individuals or parties who seek to determine their rights under specific regulatory or criminal laws.

Declaratory judgments are considered a type of preventive justice because, by informing parties of their rights, they help them to avoid violating specific laws or the terms of a contract. In 1934 Congress enacted the Declaratory Judgment Act (28 U.S.C.A. § 2201 et seq.), which allows for declaratory judgments concerning issues of federal law. At the state level, the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws passed the Uniform Declaratory Judgments Act (12 U.L.A. 109) in 1922. Between 1922 and 1993, this act was adopted in forty-one states, the Virgin Islands, and the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico. Most other states have varying laws that provide for declaratory judgments. Most declaratory judgment laws grant judges discretion to decide whether or not to issue a declaratory judgment.

West’s Encyclopedia of American Law.


92 posted on 02/09/2016 7:37:28 AM PST by jokemoke
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To: Mollypitcher1

There is no legislation (that I know of) that grants citizenship to a child born in the USA to citizen parents. There is the (misused) 14th amendment to our constitution. However Constitutional amendments are not legislation. Our Constitution grants Congress control over our naturalization process only. Congress does not have a say in who is or is not a natural born citizen. So anyone granted citizenship via a law passed by Congress is a naturalized citizen.


93 posted on 02/09/2016 7:38:26 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: DoodleDawg
Sorry but by law Cruz is a citizen at birth, AKA natural-born citizen.

Just like Obama, correct ? Support for Rafael Edward Cruz puts an end to the birther argument and makes Obama a legitimate president.

94 posted on 02/09/2016 7:41:30 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Jane Long

LOL Interesting game. You can’t lose unless you actually elect one of them.


95 posted on 02/09/2016 7:46:06 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: PJBankard
And what law makes Cruz a citizen-at-birth?

This one: Link.

96 posted on 02/09/2016 7:46:30 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
a) the part that applies to US born is simply repeating the 14th amendment. Here is the germane part of the 14th

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

There is no law granting citizenship to born in the USA. It is in our constitution! Citing some statute that simply repeats what our constitution says is a very weak argument.

97 posted on 02/09/2016 7:47:10 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: C19fan
"Trump spent months flogging a ludicrous version of this critique against President Obama, who was actually born in the United States"

Then why does he have to produce a FAKE birth certificate?

Why does his family talk about being present at his birth in Kenya?

Why did all his press literature (before running for president) say he was born in Kenya?

Why did HIS WIFE say he was born in Kenya?

98 posted on 02/09/2016 7:48:02 AM PST by Mr. K (Maybe people are poor BECAUSE they vote democrat.)
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To: jpsb
If LEGISLATION makes you a citizen you are BY DEFINITION a naturalized citizen.

Defined where?

The underlined applies to Ted Cruz

No it doesn't. Naturalization is the process where a non-citizen becomes a citizen. Cruz was a citizen at birth so he was never a non-citizen to be naturalized.

99 posted on 02/09/2016 7:48:43 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: C19fan

Were Cruz an honorable man, he’d be seeking an immediate ruling from the Supreme Court. So, he’s neither.


100 posted on 02/09/2016 7:49:32 AM PST by onedoug
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