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Trump vows to push LGBT rights, hedges on pro-marriage litmus test
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/8/16 | Lisa Bourne

Posted on 02/09/2016 8:53:30 AM PST by wagglebee

CONCORD, New Hampshire, February 8, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – Does Donald Trump support the gay agenda or oppose it? On the eve of the New Hampshire primary, observers are still scratching their heads about where the GOP frontrunner actually stands.

Trump has repeatedly and consistently said he supports the natural definition of marriage, but can a President Trump be relied on to promote it resolutely and cogently? It is this question that has many marriage activists expressing concern about his increasingly likely hold on the GOP nomination.

In fact, the National Organization for Marriage has gone so far as to say that Trump has “abandoned” the pro-marriage cause.

Trump himself underscored the problem on the weekend when he told a New Hampshire television station that from the White House he would push “equality” for homosexuals even further forward.

A cable news reporter self-identifying as a lesbian asked him last Thursday after a rally in Exeter, "When President Trump is in office, can we look for more forward motion on equality for gays and lesbians?"

“Well, you can and look - again, we're going to bring people together. That's your thing, and other people have their thing,” Trump told Sue O’Connell of New England Cable News. “We have to bring all people together. And if we don't, we're not gonna have a country anymore. It's gonna be a total mess.”

Following the comments, Trump appeared Sunday on ABC’s This Week program with George Stephanopoulos and would not commit to appointing Supreme Court justices who’d overturn Obergefell, though that would be his “preference.”

“We’re going to look at judges. They’ve got to be great judges. They’ve got to be conservative judges. We’re going to see how they stand depending on what their views are. But that would be my preference,” he told Stephanopoulos. “I would prefer that they stand against, but we’ll see what happens. It depends on the judge.”

Trump’s comments follow his statements during a Fox News Sunday interview last week, when he said, “If I'm elected, I would be very strong on putting certain judges on the bench that I think maybe could change things, but they've got a long way to go.” 

“[Marriage] should be a states rights issue,” Trump continued. “I can see changes coming down the line, frankly.” 

When asked by Fox if he “might try to appoint justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage,” Trump replied, “I would strongly consider that, yes.”

The real estate mogul criticized the Supreme Court for the Obergefell decision imposing homosexual “marriage” on all 50 states last June, but then later in August, Trump voiced support to NBC News for banning companies from firing employees on the basis of sexual orientation. “I don't think it should be a reason” to fire workers, he said at the time on Meet the Press.

The National Organization for Marriage (NOM) and a number influential evangelicals have endorsed Senator Ted Cruz in the race for president. The Texas senator has not only committed to appointing pro-marriage justices, but says the president and the states can rightly defy the “fundamentally illegitimate” ruling just as President Lincoln defied the Dred Scott decision.

NOM has also been highly critical of Trump, saying he has “abandoned” their cause. The organization said in its January 27 blog post just prior to the Iowa Caucus that “Donald Trump does not support a constitutional amendment to restore marriage to our laws. Worse, he has publicly abandoned the fight for marriage. When the US Supreme Court issued their illegitimate ruling redefining marriage, Trump promptly threw in the towel with these comments on MSNBC: ‘You have to go with it. The decision's been made, and that is the law of the land.’”

NOM had said the week before that Trump “has made no commitments to fight for marriage, or the rights of supporters of marriage to not be discriminated against and punished for refusing to go along with the lie that is same-sex 'marriage.'”

New Hampshire voters have been tracked as showing support for homosexual “marriage,” as a poll last February showed 52 percent of Republican NH primary voters saying opposing gay “marriage” is unacceptable.

The latest CNN/WMUR tracking poll shows that overall 33 percent of likely Republican primary voters support Trump, giving him a growing 17-point lead over the nearest GOP contender. RealClearPolitics polling average in the state puts him at 31.0 percent support, with Marco Rubio second at 14.7, John Kasich third at 13.2, and Ted Cruz fourth at 12.7.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; bs; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; samesexmarriage; trump
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To: xzins
This is another absolutely intentional misquoting of Donald Trump.

I am shocked, shocked, that Puritans would misquote anyone, or burn witches. Round up the usual suspects.

141 posted on 02/09/2016 10:49:07 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Amendment10

Here’s the interview, the homosexual pandering starts around 2:30:

http://www.necn.com/on-air/as-seen-on/NECN_020416_BROADSIDETRUMP_6pm_NECN-367745781.html


142 posted on 02/09/2016 10:49:26 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Amendment10

I saw it wagglebee.

You are taking it out of the context of everyone pitching in to solve problems.

A question comes in about equality for gays while trump is talking about all the problems, and this lesbian asks if there will be equality for gays, and Trump says sure and that everyone will be united to fight our problems.

That’s what’s going on and pulling what amounts to something like seconds out of an entire interview is erroneous application...otherwise known as taking out of context.


143 posted on 02/09/2016 10:54:57 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Mollypitcher1; editor-surveyor
Knowing how to make money is a good start toward knowing how to stop spending it for nothing. It also gives the prudent person great leverage in stopping graft and corruption!

Since the days of the Founders, American has had exactly ONE extremely wealthy president whose wealth was not largely the result of inheritance. This president was an orphan at age nine, raised by relatives and attended college on a scholarship, yet made so much money from the mining business that he retired by the time he was forty and continued earning millions from his investments for the next fifty years. His name was Herbert Hoover.

144 posted on 02/09/2016 11:04:49 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GrouchoTex
>> He should just stick with the wall <<

Do you mean the wall that Mexico will pay for and that will have a great, yuuuge, welcoming gate that will let the "good ones" come back right away? Got it.

But I guess that if Mexico refuses to pay, we won't get the gate? Tough luck, as they say in Queens.

145 posted on 02/09/2016 11:06:24 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: wagglebee

I have a fear that Trump could be a combination of Nixon meets Hoover, and I am not talking about the Watergate stuff.


146 posted on 02/09/2016 11:09:22 AM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: wagglebee; All
"Homosexuals have ALWAYS been equal under the law, . . ."

With all due respect wagglebee, I do not know where you are coming from regarding your misguided stance on homosexuality and the law.

More specifically, regardless of pro-gay interpretations of the 14th Amendments (14A) Equal Protections Clause by state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices, note that the Founding States had originally decided that the states did not have to respect the rights protected by the Bill of Rights (BoR). Only the federal government had to respect such rights.

So even if the Founding States had expressly protected LGBT rights in the BoR, the states did not have to respect such rights.

And even after 14A was ratified, both John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14A, and later the Supreme Court, clearly indicated that 14A applies to the states only those rights which the states have amended the Constitution to expressly protect, LGBT protections not among those rights.

Again, since the states had never amended the Constitution to expressly protect LGBT rights before 14A was ratified, the states not obligated to respect constitutional rights anyway, such rights did not automatically exist after that amendment was ratified.

147 posted on 02/09/2016 11:10:24 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: GrouchoTex
Thanks. I really thought Cruz had more say. He is the best before SCOTUS.
148 posted on 02/09/2016 11:10:40 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Hawthorn

I am not a Trump supporter, but the wall is the only thing he seems to get any traction with.
He can’t seem to stake out a consistent position on any other issue.


149 posted on 02/09/2016 11:10:41 AM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Trump has stated endlessly that marriage should be between a man and a woman. He will work to have same sex marriage repealed and leave the issue up to each of the states. You guys ought to pay more attention!


150 posted on 02/09/2016 11:22:53 AM PST by orinoco (Orinoco)
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To: Amendment10
With all due respect wagglebee, I do not know where you are coming from regarding your misguided stance on homosexuality and the law.

No, I'm not at all misguided.

I am unaware of ANY LAW at the state or federal level that has EVER denied rights to homosexuals.

Did states have laws against sodomy? Sure, but this was about a sexual act, not a person's sexual orientation.

Did states have laws prohibiting certain people from voting? Sure, but it made no distinction about sexual orientation.

Did states have laws banning homosexuals from being married? NO! Homosexuals have ALWAYS had the same rights of marriage as anyone else, e.g. if they were of age and not otherwise barred from marriage (incarcerated, etc.), they were free to marry another person of the opposite gender. Even during the period of the abhorrent anti-miscegenation laws, nothing was said about a person's sexual orientation.

No, what homosexuals have been seeking now are SPECIAL rights that have NEVER been granted to anyone.

151 posted on 02/09/2016 11:24:50 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: orinoco

He also said he intends to push gay rights.

So, Trump is either a liar or a liberal.

Or just says whatever to get elected.

Jimmy Carter wants Trump as president because Trump has no core values and will be “malleable” in DC. That’s all one really needs to know about Trump.


152 posted on 02/09/2016 11:43:56 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Well we know all of our elected officials now cannot.

You can TrusTED a hell of a lot more than you can trust Trump who changes his positions on a monthly basis.

153 posted on 02/09/2016 11:45:15 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

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154 posted on 02/09/2016 11:47:28 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; TornadoAlley3

Please note post 154. There are multiple St_Thomas_Aquinas answering on various threads at 10:09:00... you never know which one is talking at any given time.


155 posted on 02/09/2016 11:51:34 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
No, I do not trust any elected official. After 2012 and 2014, I never will again.
156 posted on 02/09/2016 11:51:58 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Just mythoughts; St_Thomas_Aquinas
Where can I get a computer like that?

Wow! That is a posting rate of 10 people.

Amazing.
157 posted on 02/09/2016 11:53:34 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: wagglebee; Al
"I am unaware of ANY LAW at the state or federal level that has EVER denied rights to homosexuals."

sigh :^(

The legal majority voters of California had exercised their 10th Amendment (10A)-protected power of the people to prohibit constitutionally unprotected gay marriage. But their 10A powers were wrongly ignored by state sovereignty-ignoring, pro-gay activist justices.

And as I said in previous post, the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect LGBT agenda rights. So the corrupt feds actually have no constitutional authority to say yes or no to PC, vote-winning LGBT ”rights.”

158 posted on 02/09/2016 11:54:52 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: wagglebee
It was a total non-answer that anyone can take to mean whatever they want it to mean.

Really the most amazing part of it is that Trump might actually think he is the man to bring the country together in any way, shape, or form.

159 posted on 02/09/2016 11:55:08 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: PA Engineer

Amazing, quite the miracle worker..... but I am going to call them out every time I seem them post. Just like Cruz their candidate, deceitful .


160 posted on 02/09/2016 11:55:53 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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