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Feb 11, 2016 - FR Thread: Checking Cruz's climate science denial clangers [Left hits Cruz when Court blocks Obama's legacy]

"I have no clue how many climate science denial myths a Republican presidential candidate can fit onto the head of a pin, but given these zingers are generally huge it's probably not that many. But we do now have some clue how many myths one of those candidates, Senator Ted Cruz, can fit into an eight-minute diatribe. At least six. When asked about climate change at recent hustings, Cruz has been delivering a stock set of answers from the Little Book of Climate Change Denial (not a real book)."...............

1 posted on 02/12/2016 4:43:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Climate Change is the dying gasp of tyrants, ideologues and self-interested people who are looking for another (in a long line of failed concepts like socialism, communism, liberalism ad nauseam)reason to control other peoples’ minds, money and future for their own selfish goals.


2 posted on 02/12/2016 4:46:12 AM PST by Gaffer
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It was like the oil in the gulf....All of a sudden, the brilliant scientists found that bugs were slurping up the oil at an exhorbinent rate.

Of course, these same bio chem folks know that these bugs have been used for ages to clean up other contaminated sites.

So what is so brilliant about this water sopping claim?

4 posted on 02/12/2016 4:58:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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As the jungles of Saharan Africa dried up, the moisture from the drying formed the equatorial moisture blanket that slid by gravity to the south where as the temperatures receded it fell as snow on the Antarctic land mass

Now apparently that frozen sahara moisture is being released and soaked up in the desiccated land masses to the north

or at least that is the conclusion that can be drawn


10 posted on 02/12/2016 5:15:23 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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NASA employees are liars.


13 posted on 02/12/2016 5:20:00 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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They just make it up as they go.


14 posted on 02/12/2016 5:20:49 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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:: As glaciers melt due to climate change ::

Oooooops. Had to stop right there.

Glaciers “melt” regardless. If we want to stop them from melting, the overall climate must be maintained around, oh....32F/0C.


16 posted on 02/12/2016 5:21:38 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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As glaciers melt due to climate change


18 posted on 02/12/2016 5:33:33 AM PST by C210N (Supporting the Constitutional Conservative in the race. Constitutional Conservative Cruz.)
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So if you search for "global warming causes drought" you'll get several hundred thousand hits. Now they are claiming global warming causes more water transfer to land. Which is it boys? You cannot have it both ways.

Apparently the global warming scammers have been a bit embarrassed that all their claims of impending inundation of lowlands have not happened. They need an excuse. They have made wild claims about the polar ice caps melting, that if they were actually correct, well, all that water has to go somewhere. So they come up with this "theory."

I guess the thinking is something like: never mind all those claims of global warming causing drought and falling water tables, we'll claim the water is very selectively going through the water cycle only to certain areas, not to others.

Let me offer an alternative explanation. One, there is no real global warming in the sense these scammers are claiming. Sure, the climate might be shaking and baking and shifting around some. That's actually a good thing as stagnation in nature tends to be bad. Two, while the ice cap at the north pole has experienced some significant fluctuations over the past several decades, at the south pole the ice cap has been steadily *gaining* ice. Consider, the north pole cap is floating on the sea. A little property of physics/nature called "displacement" means we could literally melt the entire north pole cap and see virtually no change in sea level - it has already displaced all the water equivalent to its weight. There might be some minor changes due to salinity and density changes as the fresh water melts.

Ice build up over the land parts of Antarctica should remove water from the global cycle and reduce sea levels, while ice buildup over water near the south pole should have no effect.

Oh NASA, how the mighty have fallen. Sad to say, but you've become the but of a scientific joke. With your loss of focus, loss of vision of the mission... I mean, "Muslim outreach" etc.? {snort}

NASA, how could you let one of your "leading" scientists say something like:

"We always assumed that people's increased reliance on groundwater for irrigation and consumption was resulting in a net transfer of water from the land to the ocean," said lead author J.T. Reager of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

Your "leaders" are admitting to making assumptions and running with it - for years. Until just now they get around to checking those assumptions? SMDH...

"What we didn't realize until now is that over the past decade, changes in the global water cycle more than offset the losses that occurred from groundwater pumping, causing the land to act like a sponge -- at least temporarily."

Really? Still trying to tote the party line that: hey, while our disaster predictions have never been right before, trust me, this respite is only temporary, the sky is falling...

NASA NASA NASA... It is stunning to see any organization that was formerly scientific and truthful in its focus be so utterly co-opted by politics. That, and maybe we're seeing the first real infiltration of scientists from the "everyone's a winner" generation into leadership positions within NASA. You know, the kids that have been brought up thinking their best efforts are good enough and they should just go with it. No, kids, your best efforts are often not enough. Science, physics, math, nature - the real world does not give a damn about your best efforts. Your theory is either right or not. "Best effort" does not matter. You can't just make assumptions and go with them and then come back later and try to clean things up. Hard physical sciences don't work like that. You don't get a participation trophy because your theorem was almost right.

20 posted on 02/12/2016 5:36:47 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Just wait until global warming kills all the sponges in the ocean and they release all that water. You ain’t seen nothing yet. ;-)


22 posted on 02/12/2016 5:38:13 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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The oceans aren’t going anywhere. It’s in the BOOK. That’s the way it will be.

Psalm 74:17
You have divided all the lands and seas and nations of the earth. You have made summer and winter.


23 posted on 02/12/2016 5:42:23 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. - Psalm 33:12)
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so now, if we leave our water taps running while we brush our teeth, it’s a good thing?


24 posted on 02/12/2016 5:45:12 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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Articles like this should start with the following disclaimer:

IN ORDER TO EXPLAIN WHY THE FACTS DON’T FIT OUR PREDICTIONS...


25 posted on 02/12/2016 5:45:57 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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From the article: “We always assumed that...

Seems “science?” concerning global warming, or climate change, or climate interruption, or whatever, has a lot of assumptions.

That’s a large part of the problem when you don’t use the scientific method.


36 posted on 02/12/2016 6:39:09 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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I thought the “science” was done? Are they saying, “not really”?

Either it is complete and we can stop paying for these scientists or it isn’t and we’re allowed to question it. Which is it?

I’ve seen articles claiming the sea level has risen IN FLORIDA! One family member asked some friends down there if it was “really bad”!! ugh...you need to be completely devoid of science to believe this crap. People STILL believe the polar bears are dying, the guy that came up with that was found guilty of scientific fraud (on the topic).

It’s the people pointing the finger and saying “denier” that have no clue.


38 posted on 02/12/2016 7:04:07 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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