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To: Gaffer

True, but perhaps not really ‘failed’ at all. Look at all the people who cannot wait to vote for socialists, would-be tyrants, and communists in the upcoming General.

A strong belief in Climate Change is the stock and trade of these would-be leaders, reinforced by the myriad of Millennials who were taught that Climate Change is real, any measure is justified to fix it (the ends justifies the means), and are marching to vote one of them into the WH.

So it may not be actually dying, but morphing into codified law and regulation supported by the marching minions of low educational level voters or the American creations of Marx, Hegel, Alinsky, etc.


5 posted on 02/12/2016 4:58:37 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Dreams, wishes and hopes are not actual executed fact. They are exactly that - promises. Empty promises at that.

History tells us that in every case where socialism, communism and ideologies that don’t involve freedom of choice, liberty and defense from government has been tried, it eventually fails. It is exactly THAT reason why the goals of each are continually tried out under other trendier brands (like Global Cooling - remember ozone?, AGW, and now Climate Change). The actual function and effect of ALL of these dogmas still ends up in power and control over the lives and thoughts of others.


6 posted on 02/12/2016 5:05:27 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: PIF
True, but perhaps not really 'failed' at all. Look at all the people who cannot wait to vote for socialists, would-be tyrants, and communists in the upcoming General.

Sanders and Trump: Magic Sells

......"In truth, Trump and Sanders are soaring not just by defying the establishment, but by defying logic and history. Sanders's magic potion is socialism; Trump's is Trump.

The young Democrats swooning for Sanders appear unfamiliar with socialism's century-long career, a dismal tale of ruination from Russia to Cuba to Venezuela. Indeed, are they even aware that China's greatest reduction in poverty in human history correlates precisely with the degree to which it has given up socialism?

Trump's magic is toughness - toughness in a world of losers. The power and will of the caudillo will make everything right.

Apart from the fact that strongman rule contradicts the American constitutional tradition of limited and constrained government, caudillo populism simply doesn't work. It accounts in a large part for the relative backwardness of Africa and Latin America. In 1900, Argentina had a per capita income fully 70 percent of ours. After a 20th century wallowing in Peronism and its imitators, Argentina is a basket case, its per capita income now 23 percent of ours.

There certainly is a crisis of confidence in the country's institutions. But that's hardly new. The current run of endemic distrust began with Vietnam and Watergate. Yet not in our lifetimes have the left and right populism of the Sanders and Trump variety enjoyed such massive support.

The added factor is the Obama effect, the depressed and anxious mood of a nation experiencing its worst economic recovery since World War II and watching its power and influence abroad decline amid a willed global retreat.

The result is a politics of high fantasy. Things can't get any worse, we hear, so why not shake things up to their foundation? Anyone who thinks things can't get any worse knows nothing. And risks everything."

7 posted on 02/12/2016 5:05:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: PIF

There’s not that big of a belief in global warming. If there were people would be voting based on it, and they’re not. They’d also be changing various behaviors and habits, and they’re not.

People vote, now and as they always have, on economic and securtity issues.

What you have is an authoritarian scientific community and a small minority of true believers so browbeating people over Global Warming “denial” that people claim to believe in it in a variation of the Bradley Effect. While still pumping gas into their SUVs, cranking up the AC in Summer, etc.


31 posted on 02/12/2016 6:02:33 AM PST by tanknetter
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