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Just a fraction of the world's oil supply isn't profitable at $35 a barrel
Business Insider ^ | 2/12/2016 | Bob Bryan

Posted on 02/12/2016 12:52:48 PM PST by Zhang Fei

Wood Mackenzie's report, cited by the energy news service Platts, said about 3.4 million barrels' worth of oil a day was not profitable below $35 a barrel. According to the International Energy Agency, the world's supply is 97.07 million barrels a day.

While today's oil prices are below this threshold, the report suggests the price at which US shale and other producers would be forced out of the market is lower than previously thought.

As Platts writes, "For many producers, being cash negative is not enough of an incentive to shut down fields as restarting flow can be costly and some are able to store output with a view to selling it when prices recover."

This falls in line with a report from Citi in December showing that the amount per barrel that most producers needed to receive just to keep the lights on, referred to as the cash cost point, was well under $30.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


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1 posted on 02/12/2016 12:52:48 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

The problem is that a lot of countries are committed to spending a huge profit per barrel. A lot of dictatorships are hurting now.


2 posted on 02/12/2016 12:54:55 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Zhang Fei

and once again, American ingenuity, which obama/sanders/hillary et. al hate, will make 30 a barrel profitable


3 posted on 02/12/2016 12:55:41 PM PST by dp0622
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To: Zhang Fei

Profitable could mean the cost per barrel is $32 to $33. I think the Saudis would like to make a little bit more than $2-3/barrel.


4 posted on 02/12/2016 12:57:48 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes rights)
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To: nickcarraway

that shouldn’t be our business, but it is. Because dictatorships that go broke turn to war sometimes

and WHY wasn’t gas this price when i drove my cab 3 years ago :)

4.35. I remember. would break my heart at the end of the night :)

now if you take the 8 mpg Crown Vic I drove and put 160 miles on a 12 hour shift , the comes out to 87 to fill the tank.

Take a new hybrid cab that gets 40, at 2 bucks with NY taxes, those same 160 miles now cost 8 bucks!!!

can that be right?!?!


5 posted on 02/12/2016 12:58:25 PM PST by dp0622
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To: Zhang Fei
Could be a bull market....


6 posted on 02/12/2016 1:00:37 PM PST by nascarnation (Hillary: the Democrat version of Jeb Bush)
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To: MAexile
Profitable could mean the cost per barrel is $32 to $33. I think the Saudis would like to make a little bit more than $2-3/barrel.

Saudi costs average about $3.

7 posted on 02/12/2016 1:00:54 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: thackney

I would very much like to hear your comments on this, particularly on whether this figure addresses existing production and not new shale extraction.


8 posted on 02/12/2016 1:28:57 PM PST by henkster (Hillary Clinton's supporters are beginning to realize they are fettered to a corpse.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I would guess that ocean freight from the Persian Gulf to the civilized world would exceed $3 per barrel.


9 posted on 02/12/2016 1:33:54 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
I would guess that ocean freight from the Persian Gulf to the civilized world would exceed $3 per barrel.

A VLCC that can transport 2m barrels of crude from Dubai to Newark would take about 30 days to complete the journey, at a rate of about $100K a day. That's $3m divided by 2m barrels, or about $1.50 per barrel. In contrast, fracked oil that has to be transported by rail inside these United States, from point of extraction to storage facilities, involves rail transport costs of $10 to $15 a barrel. That's part of the reason why WTI is consistently a few dollars less than than Brent, despite the fact that WTI is easier to refine.

10 posted on 02/12/2016 1:55:46 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The makes crude costs out to be about 83 cents a gallon.

11 posted on 02/12/2016 2:52:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Zhang Fei

the need for oil continues to grow and there is a never ending supply of it. If you cannot make enough on what is produced, then with the reduced cost more users(transportation, plastics, auto users, etc., can increase production as users increase demand. If you can’t make it on the front end, make it on the back end. There is still a way. Oilmen may make some less but will remain very, very rich!


12 posted on 02/12/2016 4:01:18 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Saudi costs average about $3.

Wow, really? Wow.

$0.25/gal gas, here we come!

13 posted on 02/12/2016 5:28:22 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes rights)
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To: Zhang Fei
Not that it's a big deal, But at even 15 knots, a tanker takes 30 days from Umm Qasr to Houston.

With the US lifting the prohibition on the export of US crude, would you expect WTI to eventually trade at a premium to Dubai crude?

14 posted on 02/12/2016 6:39:30 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
Not that it's a big deal, But at even 15 knots, a tanker takes 30 days from Umm Qasr to Houston. With the US lifting the prohibition on the export of US crude, would you expect WTI to eventually trade at a premium to Dubai crude?

You'll find that Newark, NJ is substantially closer (>10%) to the Cape of Good Hope than Houston, TX. I expect (apart from first mover advantage) and hurricane-free weather, that's why New York City was the major seaport for the East Coast since the 13 colonies period. As to WTI vs Brent, the rail or truck transportation cost is there whether or not WTI is sold abroad, and the spread has in fact narrowed to a few bucks a barrel from a peak of about $23, thanks to improved domestic infrastructure for transporting WTI.

It's just really hard to beat ocean transportation costs on very large ships. It's cheaper to transport a shipping container from Shanghai to New York than it is to transport it by truck from San Francisco to New York. Heck, I read that it's cheaper to ship a container by sea from Shanghai to New York than to ship it from Shanghai to Los Angeles, and then transfer it to a US-flagged ship heading to New York (thanks to the Jones Act).

15 posted on 02/12/2016 8:50:29 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei; thackney
Saudi costs average about $3.

The estimated production costs from other countries:

http://knoema.com/vyronoe/cost-of-oil-production-by-country

16 posted on 02/13/2016 2:47:14 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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http://money.cnn.com/interactive/economy/the-cost-to-produce-a-barrel-of-oil/index.html Not the same estimates.


17 posted on 02/13/2016 3:18:27 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Zhang Fei
Well, yeah; but I'm not sure Newark has much influence on the US petroleum market.

The 7 largest US refineries are on the Gulf Coast and receive their domestic crude by pipeline. New Jersey refineries aren't served by crude pipelines and don't receive crude from the Mideast.

18 posted on 02/13/2016 8:22:47 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Zhang Fei

But the financial guys say we’re dooooooooooooooooooooomed!


19 posted on 02/13/2016 3:35:18 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Terrorism, the thing that shall not be named by the MSM)
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