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Trump threatens to sue Cruz for 'not being a natural born citizen'
CNN ^ | 02/12/2016 | Eugene Scott

Posted on 02/12/2016 12:57:13 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

If Trump acts so silly now, just imagine him with a pen and a phone like Obama. No thanks!


21 posted on 02/12/2016 1:08:54 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Trump, and Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, is Trump still saying that his questioning it is still just to help Cruz?


22 posted on 02/12/2016 1:09:13 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: kabar
Trump has standing because he is running against Cruz on the same ballot.

But that's not a ballot for President of the United States, it's a ballot for the Republican nomination. Any legal challenges about citizenship are technically premature for the nomination.

In other words, if Cruz gets the nomination, those with standing to sue are the Democrat nominee and nominees/candidates from minor parties.

23 posted on 02/12/2016 1:09:28 PM PST by gdani ("I can be the most politically correct person you have ever seen")
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To: SeekAndFind

Cruz accused Trump of being Mob and when Trump fires back, he is, according to Cruzboys acting ‘Thinned skinned’.


24 posted on 02/12/2016 1:09:33 PM PST by heights
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To: CA Conservative

If Trump doesn’t do it and if the recent Candian doesn’t admit it and drop out, we’re going to have Hillary. If Obama gets his way, as he always does, “they” will somehow get Cruz on the ballot. At the last minute, Hillary will pull the standing card and sue. That will put the election on hold for the two extra years Obama said he’d have (remember he said he’d be POTUS 8-10 years). After a couple years, SCOTUS will kick ineligible Cruz to the curb and crown Her Royal Hineyness. The unemployed Kenyan will have his shot at the UN. Then toward the end of Hill’ first term, she’ll pay her debts by appointing the muslim to the Supremes.


25 posted on 02/12/2016 1:09:40 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I don't see where Trump has any standing to do this.

That is the problem with this whole issue - who has standing? Cruz can't do it - who would he sue? A voter can't do it - no standing. Perhaps the only one who can do it is another candidate. But then you get to the question of whether the court will hear the matter even if the plaintiff has standing if they do not consider the issue "ripe". They may decide that no injury has occurred unless and until Cruz wins the nomination - if he doesn't win, the issue is moot. The court does not pre-emptively rule on POTENTIAL injuries, unless the likelihood that the injury cannot be remedied afterward is extremely high.

26 posted on 02/12/2016 1:10:30 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Opponents on the same ballot have standing. Qualified perhaps by finding that some opponents don't have a snowball's chance of winning the election contest. Some courts might wait until after the election, and allow only the second place finisher to sue, others might take the case just to preserve the integrity of the ballot.

Ironically, a court might find Trump to lack standing because he'd likely win, regardless of who else is on the ballot.

27 posted on 02/12/2016 1:11:55 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: heights

The smartest man in the world didn’t realize that a couple of his partners were made men. In Atlantic City. In the casino business.


28 posted on 02/12/2016 1:14:20 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Trump to McCain - "Pass the strawberries".)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Cruz won the nomination ( which will never happen ) you can be damn sure the Democrats will challenge his ‘Natural Born Citizenship’.


29 posted on 02/12/2016 1:15:22 PM PST by heights
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To: Don Corleone

seekandfind, I say ditto...let’s get it on. The more I see of Cruz the more sleaze I see in him.


30 posted on 02/12/2016 1:16:40 PM PST by native texan (Texans should be independent thinkers)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Trump truly believes that Cruz is unqualified and does NOT sue, then he is not worthy of the position he seeks!


31 posted on 02/12/2016 1:16:47 PM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Kind of interesting that the founding fathers spelled out an important qualification to the presidency but yet there doesn’t seem to be a quick way to resolve any questions pertaining to a candidates eligibility.


32 posted on 02/12/2016 1:17:39 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (The Democrats Must Lose In November)
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To: gdani
-- But that's not a ballot for President of the United States, it's a ballot for the Republican nomination. Any legal challenges about citizenship are technically premature for the nomination. --

I think you meant "Any legal challenges about citizenship are technically premature for the general election". If the question is the nomination, the challenge is not premature during the nomination process. It is a moot challenge if the unqualified candidate gathers little or no support, and it is a moot challenge when brought by the winner.

The way I see it, the best argument in both primary and general election contests looks at ballot integrity, as a function of the government (state election offices) not facilitating fraud on the public.

33 posted on 02/12/2016 1:18:35 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: gov_bean_ counter

But if he does clean up his act, you don’t have standing? Logic is hard for The Trump. I think that tanning bed is frying his brain.


34 posted on 02/12/2016 1:19:16 PM PST by reegs
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope on Saturday Cruz gives him a “put up or shut up” challenge


35 posted on 02/12/2016 1:19:37 PM PST by almcbean
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To: heights

Cruz supporters say Trump ought to sue to get the issue settled, then when Trump threatens to sue, they acuse him of grandstanding. I suppose those aren’t necessarily incongruous positions, but the combination does ring of goading somebody into doing something so you can ridicule him for it.


36 posted on 02/12/2016 1:20:38 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Yep, not a quick way, but a way.

It’s called “The Actual Election”. Works for this voter.


37 posted on 02/12/2016 1:20:45 PM PST by C210N (Supporting the Constitutional Conservative in the race. Constitutional Conservative Cruz.)
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To: kabar

It’s also Trump getting headlines and bringing attention to Cruz’s slimy campaign. All art of the deal tactics: make a claim to get attention but the real attention is to Cruz’s ads and so forth. Smart Trump.


38 posted on 02/12/2016 1:21:42 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: Cboldt
If the question is the nomination, the challenge is not premature during the nomination process.

I would argue it's moot for the party nomination as there is zero requirement that someone be a natural born citizen to become a party's nominee. Only to become president.

If they wanted, I think a party could nominate just about anyone regardless of age, citizenship, etc. But it does not mean they would qualify to be president.

39 posted on 02/12/2016 1:22:24 PM PST by gdani ("I can be the most politically correct person you have ever seen")
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To: The Iceman Cometh; All
"Kind of interesting that the founding fathers
spelled out an important qualification to the presidency
but yet there doesn't seem to be a quick way to resolve
any questions pertaining to a candidates eligibility...."




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40 posted on 02/12/2016 1:22:30 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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