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Apple Fights Order to Unlock San Bernardino Gunman’s iPhone
NY Times ^ | FEB. 17, 2016 | ERIC LICHTBLAU and KATIE BENNER

Posted on 02/17/2016 9:53:55 PM PST by TroutStalker

Last month, some of President Obama's top intelligence advisers met in Silicon Valley with Apple's chief, Timothy D. Cook, and other technology leaders in what seemed to be a public rapprochement in their long-running dispute over the encryption safeguards built into their devices.

But behind the scenes, relations were tense, as lawyers for the Obama administration and Apple held closely guarded discussions for over two months about one particularly urgent case: The F.B.I. wanted Apple to help "unlock" an iPhone used by one of the two attackers who killed 14 people in San Bernardino, Calif., in December, but Apple was resisting.

When the talks collapsed, a federal magistrate judge, at the Justice Department's request, ordered Apple to bypass security functions on the phone. The order set off a furious public battle on Wednesday between the Obama administration and one of the world's most valuable companies in a dispute with far-reaching legal implications.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: apple; california; fbi; iphone; sanbernadino; sanbernardino
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1 posted on 02/17/2016 9:53:55 PM PST by TroutStalker
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To: TroutStalker

Oh now he’s a gunman. Yesterday he was a terrorist.


2 posted on 02/17/2016 9:57:25 PM PST by McGruff (Flexibility is a good thing, but you should not be flexible on core principles - Ted Cruz)
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To: McGruff

“Well, it is the NY Crimes...espousing New York values.


3 posted on 02/17/2016 10:01:04 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NEW YORK))
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To: TroutStalker

Hey, Barry’s of to Cuba.


4 posted on 02/17/2016 10:01:39 PM PST by 80skid
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To: TroutStalker

Let me see if I have this right, the government wants the code to unlock everyone’s phone, but can’t look at FB pages of people they want to import and place in all around America?


5 posted on 02/17/2016 10:03:48 PM PST by LowOiL (Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets.)
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To: jessduntno

Those NY values took two of my friends from lung cancer working to fight the fire then clean the pit.

What the #### does the Times have to do with this article?

it’s not an opinion piece.

NY values saw so many people including me giving blood that they had to have aides step into to draw blood from people.

I’ll stop there because’ i’m really mother $####ing p..ssed at this “NY VALUES” comment #####


6 posted on 02/17/2016 10:06:13 PM PST by dp0622
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To: TroutStalker

Funny how they do not mention that Apple assisted the feds in recovering data on other iPhones something like 70 other times in the last few years. But those were probably all from Republican’s. They finally had to draw the line. They just don’t want to alienate their jihadi customers.


7 posted on 02/17/2016 10:06:47 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: TroutStalker

The government’s position on this matter is BS-——http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231127


8 posted on 02/17/2016 10:07:54 PM PST by yadent
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To: dp0622

It was a Times article. The West Side Values expressed by them all of the time. Got nothing to do with 9/11.

You gotta be looking real hard to fly off the handle here, Bud. Had nothing to do with you or the WTC.


9 posted on 02/17/2016 10:09:06 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NEW YORK))
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To: TroutStalker
Apple Unlocked iPhones for the Feds 70 Times Before
10 posted on 02/17/2016 10:09:55 PM PST by McGruff (Flexibility is a good thing, but you should not be flexible on core principles - Ted Cruz)
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What I understood about this fight was that the Govt doesn't want Apple to unlock this ONE TERRORIST'S PHONE, they want the technology behind it/or a back door, so the Govt will be able to unlock ALL Apple phones should they want to.

Am I correct on this?

11 posted on 02/17/2016 10:11:10 PM PST by TXSearcher (Trump, like Obama, keeps redrawing that red line in the sand.........)
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To: TXSearcher

“What I understood about this fight was that the Govt doesn’t want Apple to unlock this ONE TERRORIST’S PHONE, they want the technology behind it/or a back door, so the Govt will be able to unlock ALL Apple phones should they want to.”

Nope, they want that specific phone and it’s in the warrant. Apple pulled a fast one and said it would make all the phones vulnerable. I don’t have any opinion about that, bt pretty sure if your are f’ing APPLE you can probably comply with a warrant and give them the information on this ISIS murdering pr*ck’s phone. If they want to blow it into something else, they probably got more lawyers than the town of Albuquerque got people, so...in my opinion, they been served a legal constitutional warrant. Cough it up or pay.


12 posted on 02/17/2016 10:15:26 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NEW YORK))
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To: fireman15

See my post #40 on that “70 Times” thread...full data encryption was implemented since then (iOS 8 & 9):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3398556/posts?page=40#40


13 posted on 02/17/2016 10:16:32 PM PST by Drago
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To: jessduntno

the phrase “NY values” as an insult has been used maybe a thousand times already.

dont have to look that hard.

what state are you from, so I can use “#### values” as an insult every chance I get?


14 posted on 02/17/2016 10:17:58 PM PST by dp0622
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To: Drago

I wondered about that, but missed your thread.


15 posted on 02/17/2016 10:21:56 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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..in my opinion, they been served a legal constitutional warrant.

Question, how can they have been served a legal constitutional warrant, when they do not have access to nor possession of the information requested in the warrant, nor currently any way to access the same? It would be like a terrorist storing information in a safe deposit box in a bank that had all of the original locks changed on the boxes, then going back to the original manufacturer of the box and ordering them to open it. Just because they made it doesn't mean they can open it anymore, nor does it mean they can legally be served a warrant for the contents of the box.

16 posted on 02/17/2016 10:23:55 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: jessduntno
Nope, they want that specific phone and it’s in the warrant.

I had gotten some conflicting info earlier that had me confused after reading this article. I appreciate your response.......

17 posted on 02/17/2016 10:25:40 PM PST by TXSearcher (Trump, like Obama, keeps redrawing that red line in the sand.........)
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To: fireman15
Funny how they do not mention that Apple assisted the feds in recovering data on other iPhones something like 70 other times in the last few years.

It is due to the differences in the operating system.

18 posted on 02/17/2016 10:27:13 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: TXSearcher

In an unusually detailed directive, Magistrate Judge Sheri Pym of the Federal District Court for the District of Central California ordered Apple to provide “reasonable technical assistance” to the F.B.I. in unlocking the phone. That assistance should allow investigators to “bypass or erase the auto-erase function” on the phone, among other steps, she wrote.


19 posted on 02/17/2016 10:27:59 PM PST by jessduntno (Steady, Reliable, and (for now) Republican - Donald Trump (D, R, I, D, R, I, R - NEW YORK))
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To: fireman15

NP...I think Apple has gotten more serious with iPhone security/privacy since they are trying for more corporate business and since the NSA/Snowden domestic spying debacle. Apple cannot “break” the encryption, but they could possibly break their own “brute force” password protections so that the FBI could hack the terrorist’s password...provided he didn’t use a long alphanumeric one. Cracking a 4 digit number would’t take long with the Apple “protections” turned off.


20 posted on 02/17/2016 10:30:23 PM PST by Drago
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