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Vexed by Trumpology
Steve Deace ^ | February 18, 2016 | Steve Deace

Posted on 02/19/2016 10:18:50 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

I'm really trying to understand why people stay with Trump. I really am. Like I can see why a conservative would prefer Rubio. I don't agree, but I can see it.

But for the life of me I don't understand the Trump thing at all. Because if you're for Trump, here's what you're saying:

I hate the GOP establishment so much, I'm backing the guy that donated to help them against the Tea Party.

I hate Obamacare so much, I'm backing the only candidate not named Bernie Sanders also for single-payer healthcare.

I hate amnesty so much, I'm voting for the guy that helped fund most of the political campaigns of the gang of 8.

I thought Romney and McCain were squishes, so I'm supporting Trump who's to the Left of both of them.


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To: Pirate Ragnar
He is psychologically out of balance, he has no grace or gravitas, he is classless and crass, he is not thoughtful nor is he broadly or well educated in what he needs to be to be an inspiring leader. He is a disgrace and an embarrassment to the United States.

Picky, picky, picky. . . .

21 posted on 02/19/2016 10:39:12 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: Durbin

He entertains them. There’s a certain segment of our population that have to be constantly entertained. There own lives are boring and predictible so he gets them out of their own boring world.

Doesn’t matter what he says, does or even what he does if he wins. As long as he entertains them they are happy.


22 posted on 02/19/2016 10:40:39 AM PST by beandog (TrumperTantrum)
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To: Truthsearcher
He lets people fill in the blanks for themselves what “great” means to them, and he becomes the perfect candidate for them because in their minds he agrees with them on EVERYTHING. And how could you not for the guy who agrees with you on everything?

So simple even a caveman could do it.
So why hasn't the smartest guy in the GOP figured that out?
23 posted on 02/19/2016 10:43:32 AM PST by itsahoot (1st impression. Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. VoteTrump)
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To: GodGunsGuts

It’s real simple, Steve

Trump will end Muslim immigration.
Trump will put an end to cruddy trade deals.
Trump will build the wall.

And until some other candidate adopts those positions, Trump will remain in the lead.


24 posted on 02/19/2016 10:44:47 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: exnavy

It’s not a ruse. I can’t prove it to you or convince you of it.

I’ll simply say I’ve been a conservative all my life, I’m 64 and I spent the first half of my life waiting for Ronald Reagan and the second half waiting for another Ronald Reagan. So, I know what conservatism means and what’s so important about it.

Donald Trump isn’t RR but he is more than you seem to think he is. Invest a couple hours actually listening to one of his events, there was a great one in Myrtle Beach today. He grows on you - he’s different than the media’s caricature portrayal. I think he’s very smart, very kind hearted and very sincere. And by the way I don’t believe you can be those things without somehow being a conservative.


25 posted on 02/19/2016 10:49:42 AM PST by enumerated
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To: GodGunsGuts
Did anyone notice that the PC stranglehold has been broken by Trump and because of that alone this election is energizing everyone? It is also bring the phony "conservative movement" types out in the open. Try and picture what this election cycle would look like without him. The last fart I explelled would have more flair than a Trumpless election cycle.

He even told the Pope to shove it. Way to go Donald! The man is God send.

PS without Trump Cruz would have dropped out by now.

26 posted on 02/19/2016 10:51:04 AM PST by central_va
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To: GodGunsGuts

I supported, donated to, and voted for Tea Party candidates. I’ve watched them stab me in the back over and over again. Yes. I’m done with them. They’re weak. They have no core. (Gov Haley, anyone?)

Trump is not for ‘single payer healthcare’. He’s for ‘universal healthcare’... this would probably end up giving us something like Australia’s healthcare model. A combination of affordable insurance with a very basic public healthcare system to back it up for the poor and elderly. There is nothing wrong with that and many FReepers have proposed such a compromise over the years.

Without Trump, we wouldn’t even be talking about illegal immigration in this election. Nobody would mention it or care. And the two Cuban candidates would be passing amnesty if they were elected to ‘expand the base’.

McCain is a massive disappointment. He’s a ‘reach across the aisle’ GOPe elite. He might *say* the right things, but his actions speak louder than words. He’s worse than a leftist. He’s a colluder.


27 posted on 02/19/2016 10:53:55 AM PST by Marie (TRUMP TRUTH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"I'm really trying to understand why people stay with Trump. I really am."

Stopped reading right there.


28 posted on 02/19/2016 10:59:20 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: itsahoot

Because they aren’t interested in running a con?


29 posted on 02/19/2016 11:02:32 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: freespirit2012

The entire thing boils down to if you believe Trump.... If you believe he is telling the truth and wants to build the wall, rebuild the military and all his other promises...If you don’t believe him then you are against him— if you do then you for him..

Also they want the Republican party to listen to them.. They don’t care that Hillary or Bernie will beat him in Nov 2016. They’re not looking or caring what happens if they pick the wrong candidate. It’s too bad these people have blinders on and can’t see what he is doing to them..


30 posted on 02/19/2016 11:03:18 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: GodGunsGuts
You don't understand the Divine Right of Trump? Heresy! He is the one we've been waiting for.
31 posted on 02/19/2016 11:07:20 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: freespirit2012
The entire thing boils down to if you believe Trump....

Which Trump? Trump 1.0, the proabort, pro-polosi Trump or Trump 2.1 who favors government forcing the purchase of health insurance, funding planned parenthood, and a renegotiated Iranian deal.

Trump is running in favor of the Obama agenda, the real difference is he thinks he can get a better deal. Trump thinks a more efficient socialism is what will make America great again.

32 posted on 02/19/2016 11:10:19 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
You know, I can understand being fed up with Obama, and I can understand being fed up with the establishment RINO's, but throw critical thinking and logic out the window is inconceivable to me. They're doing exactly what the Obummer voters did first time around to elect him. It's the exact same thing, and it's the exact same thing when Jesse Ventura got elected in my state---I learned a very valuable lesson during that time! DON'T VOTE ON FEELINGS!
33 posted on 02/19/2016 11:15:31 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: GodGunsGuts

Happens every election cycle: Candidate A promises some things some of us like and Candidate B promises some other stuff. Then all of the Free republic devolves into internecine battle that gets louder and crazier every day that goes by.

Some reality. Trump’s a good guy and he has some excellent proposals and best of all, he’s really stood up to the illegal immigration lobby and pounded political correctness.

More reality. Cruz is an outstanding conservative and if by some remote chance he wins the Presidency, we’ll be in tall cotton.

Last bit of reality. If Trump wins the nomination, we need to back him. If Cruz wins, we need to back him.

Easy, isn’t it? Or maybe you prefer Hillary or Bernie.


34 posted on 02/19/2016 11:27:22 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"I'm trying to understand ... I really am." Duh-oh! lard photo: lard usesforlard.gif #12. Brain-lock
35 posted on 02/19/2016 11:36:51 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice
Metal cutting lubricant.
36 posted on 02/19/2016 11:40:46 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“I’m backing the guy that donated to help them against the Tea Party.”
“I’m voting for the guy that helped fund most of the political campaigns of the gang of 8.”

This is the weakest criticism of Trump.
A big businessman donates to both sides, which is required to be competitive and get things done.
It says nothing about his personal views or how he would govern.

“I’m backing the only candidate not named Bernie Sanders also for single-payer healthcare.”

Trump explicitly said he isn’t for single payer healthcare.

From my perspective there is no substance to your views on Trump posted here, and I’m a Cruz supporter


37 posted on 02/19/2016 11:43:10 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I think he is proof that you don’t have to be a leftist to fall for “Hope” and “Change”.


38 posted on 02/19/2016 11:47:17 AM PST by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: Mount Athos

Thanks for being fair-minded. I am getting sick of the hyper-partisans on both sides here engaging in distortions, out-of-context attacks and sometimes out-and-out lies. All they are doing is opening the door for someone like a Rubio to slither through.


39 posted on 02/19/2016 11:48:34 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Mount Athos

A big businessman donates to both sides, which is required to be competitive and get things done.
It says nothing about his personal views or how he would govern.


I’ve heard this a few times. Can someone explain a bit deeper (I’m a Cruz supporter so perhaps a bit dense).
Does Ben and Jerry’s donate to the Tea Party?
Does someone have a list of liberals Hobby Lobby has supported?
Does Browning send money to Mom’s for Action?


40 posted on 02/19/2016 11:50:46 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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