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What mother who watched her 12-year-old kill himself wants you to know (anti-gun hit piece)
Arizona Republic via USA Today Network | February 20, 2016 | Karina Bland

Posted on 02/20/2016 10:34:18 AM PST by Slings and Arrows

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Tragedy exploited as propaganda - Goebbels would be proud.
1 posted on 02/20/2016 10:34:18 AM PST by Slings and Arrows
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Did a criminal give him the gun or did a family member make ta weapon accessible to the child?

How secured was the weapon and who is really responsible for guns with their children?


2 posted on 02/20/2016 10:39:31 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

In the article.


3 posted on 02/20/2016 10:40:09 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg)
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What mother who watched her 12-year-old kill himself wants you to know (anti-gun hit piece)

I am careless, brainless and clueless, so totally qualified to pontificate and preach to the whole world.

Wooo hooo!!

Look at me when I talk to you!
Are you listening, dammit!!!

4 posted on 02/20/2016 10:44:34 AM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: publius911

Don’t think - feel!


5 posted on 02/20/2016 10:48:13 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg)
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Only government gunthugs should have guns.

And they should be fully automatic belt-fed weapons, so's peasants like this woman don't feel too much pain before her bullet-riddled body falls into the trench...

6 posted on 02/20/2016 10:51:21 AM PST by kiryandil ("Our Muslim-In-Chief, Barack Obama - the Quislaming in the White House")
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To: A CA Guy
Did a criminal give him the gun or did a family member make ta weapon accessible to the child?

Apparently the dad forgot to lock it back up after he and the deceased came home from the gun range.

7 posted on 02/20/2016 10:52:18 AM PST by Cementjungle
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A really messed up situation when a little trouble at school would prompt a kid to run away from school and off himself. What sort of fear has the school instilled in the kid? Or anyone else for that matter?

Permanent solutions to temporary problems...

8 posted on 02/20/2016 10:55:48 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Something went wrong somewhere in that kid's brain. His reaction seems totally disproportionate to what had happened. And I have to wonder about why he would mess with the gun anyway, even if it was left lying out.

Obviously a horrible tragedy, but nothing that should result in taking away anybody's rights, or even punishing anybody, as far as I can tell.

Accidents will always happen with many aspects of society: guns, cars, building, medicine, alcohol and other drugs, machinery, water, whatever.

We can't eliminate all tragedies in society by imposing hysterical and arbitrary laws. Nor should we.

So I'm not sure what purpose the article serves, other than the aforementioned use as an attempt at fear-mongering propaganda by elitist authoritarian fools.

9 posted on 02/20/2016 10:55:56 AM PST by sargon
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With a story like this, it’s all about the emotion of the moment. Thank


10 posted on 02/20/2016 10:58:21 AM PST by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prosecution 2016)
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To: Cementjungle

If the 12 yoa really wanted kill himself he would have found a means even if a gun was not available.

I started hunting on my own at 9 yoa guns were always available hanging on the gun rack.

We learned at a young age what they were for and what they could do.


11 posted on 02/20/2016 10:58:46 AM PST by riverrunner
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There really isn’t any need to read it. We’ve heard every argument before. None of them come close to outweighing the reality that when citizens are disarmed, tyrants kill millions of them. Even if things got like Chicago in every city, and we had one of these kid suicides in ever city, every day, and we had a school ambush with multiple fatalities every day; as sad as this all might be, it would pale in comparison to the deeds of Adolf Hilter, Mao Tze Tung, Josef Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and others.


12 posted on 02/20/2016 11:01:20 AM PST by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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"What mother who watched her 12-year-old kill himself wants you to know"

Know what? Know that her husband was an idiot for leaving an unsecured firearm around in a house with a young child? (Was he charged with child abuse and negligent homicide?)

But how is this different from all the other stupid things that parents may do that harms their children?

Statistically, having a swimming pool behind the house is much more dangerous than having a gun in the house.

13 posted on 02/20/2016 11:06:54 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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They donated the money as the son requested.

So he left behind a suicide note... nice of the reporter to bring that up.

Why’d a 12 year old say something profane about the Vice Principal?

Why’d the parents race home KNOWING that something was up and worried he was going to run away? (Hint it wasn’t the first time this happened)

Was he on any psych meds at the time?

No no... the gun did it. Only the gun.


14 posted on 02/20/2016 11:08:17 AM PST by Skywise
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Not clicking.


15 posted on 02/20/2016 11:09:20 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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If the 12 yoa really wanted kill himself he would have found a means even if a gun was not available.

I suspect that's true. When I was in junior high, there were twin brothers who were very competitive with each other academically, and one hung himself supossedly over a poor grade on his report card.

16 posted on 02/20/2016 11:11:17 AM PST by Cementjungle
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So how did mommy drive him to suicide?
The tipoff is that he waited to do it in front of her.


17 posted on 02/20/2016 11:13:14 AM PST by JJ_Folderol (If Trump wants my vote he can buy it like an honest politician would.)
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Interesting points.


18 posted on 02/20/2016 11:15:05 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg)
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#13 I was raised in a house that had many firearms. Several were on a gun rack in our bedroom. Big one -4 boys. No one got shot....

I raised my kid in a home that had funs in everyroom. She knew where they were and how to use them since she was 7-8 years old.

I refuse to let liberal Citiots tell me who is irresponsible when it is their kid doing the stupid stuff. Perhaps Xbox One wasn’t a great substitute for parenting after all.


19 posted on 02/20/2016 11:36:24 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The original 1998 version)
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If they hadn’t left the gun out, Max wouldn’t be dead by gunshot wound.


20 posted on 02/20/2016 11:45:52 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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