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Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio both release their tax returns...
The Daily Mail ^ | February 28, 2016 | Kalhan Rosenblatt

Posted on 02/28/2016 1:00:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have released their tax return information while both attacking Donald Trump, who refuses to release his.

On Saturday the Florida senator and the Texas senator made public up to fiver years previous tax information hoping to shame Trump into letting voters see his, too.

Rubio released summaries of five tax years Saturday and Cruz later released summaries of four years, from 2011 to 2014, according to NBC News.

Cruz accused Donald Trump of hiding his tax returns from voters during Sunday's broadcast of 'Face The Nation'.

Cruz said Trump could be hiding as many as five years-worth of returns.

'Trump said in the debate...'Gosh, I'm being audited, for two years'. Then he said 'three years'.

Then he said 'maybe five years'. Listen, if there's a problem in his taxes, the voters have a right to know,'

'Because come September, October, the general election, folks in the media are going to make a hayday about any problems in his taxes.

'And I think primary voters have a right to know,' Cruz said during the broadcast.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: candidates; cw; disclosure; finances; repost; taxreturns
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To: par4
..Citizens, not a citizen, singular, but citizens, plural. Both parents, with an exception for a father who has never been resident.

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"But look closer at the bolder portion. It never says that the father has to be a citizen of the United States at the time the child is born. All it says is that citizenship "shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States." It is indisputable that Rafael Cruz was in the United States for a period of time prior to both Ted’s birth and his marriage to native born American citizen Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson in 1969. He fled Cuba in 1957 at the age of 18, arriving in Texas. There, he attended the University of Texas, graduating with a degree in mathematics in 1961. He even married his first wife there, Julia Ann Garza, in 1959. They later divorced, but not before he had two daughters with her. He was also granted political asylum in 1961 upon his graduation from UT.

In other words, Ted Cruz's birth meets everything required in this 1790 act. His mother, Eleanor Wilson, was a citizen by birth in the United States, fulfilling the requirement of a child being born to at least one citizen, and his father had lived in the United States for years and been granted political asylum here prior to his move to Canada."

There are more citations at the Link if you "really" see this as an issue...

61 posted on 02/28/2016 4:51:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Enlightened1

go Planned Parenthood, go neutrality on Israel v Palestinians, go single payer, eh? think about it.


62 posted on 02/28/2016 4:54:12 AM PST by avital2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; exit82; Jrabbit
Yes, I was there and saw Christie signing autographs after the rally. I was towards the back of the hangar so I left as soon as I could; the private plane was still sitting on the tarmac. Jrabbit saw Christie signing autographs on the streaming feed as well.
63 posted on 02/28/2016 5:02:39 AM PST by Spirit of Liberty (Time to go Galt!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't see it as an issue, it is clear as day that the requirement is the parents be citizens - parents, plural. It is you who is constructing a case based on the complete misinterpretation or disregard of the requirements. If you can't see that the law requires both parents - plural - to be citizens - and subordinate - the father must have also lived in the states then nothing anyone can say will convince you of that.

Your own quotes from the law show you wrong and you twist them to suit your purposes.

64 posted on 02/28/2016 5:03:16 AM PST by par4
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To: Spirit of Liberty

Did you ask Christie if Trump still thinks he voted for Obama?


65 posted on 02/28/2016 5:04:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: par4

Suit yourself.

It’s been said:

“You’re entitled to your own opinion, but you aren’t entitled to your own facts.”


66 posted on 02/28/2016 5:05:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It's also been said:

"Never argue with fools, they will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

Good day

67 posted on 02/28/2016 5:11:44 AM PST by par4
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So what is in their tax returns? Anything of interest?


68 posted on 02/28/2016 5:37:43 AM PST by Theo (Trump = French Revolution. Cruz = American Revolution. Choose wisely.)
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To: elhombrelibre

They just said on Fox News that Cruz and Rubio have only released a summary of their tax returns and not their real returns. What are they hiding?


69 posted on 02/28/2016 5:38:05 AM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: Enlightened1

We can of course take your word for what happens behind closed doors because you are a psychic or have cameras installed all these rooms or snuck in and listen to yourself or oh wait you don’t know what’s happening behind closed doors. I love the way people assume they know everything when actually they’re just imposing their worldview


70 posted on 02/28/2016 5:38:46 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: par4
"Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it." ― George Bernard Shaw
71 posted on 02/28/2016 5:44:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: par4

Please feel free to sight in the following laws we are natural born citizens defined, you will have a very hard time with this because the only time the founders ever wrote in law the meaning of natural born citizen is the law of 1790 this of course would by definition provide the only guidance to the original intent of the founders as to the meaning of the term


72 posted on 02/28/2016 5:45:11 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: RC one

Let me know when Runio shows up for work and they both give back the donations from the Stalwarts backing their campaigns.


73 posted on 02/28/2016 5:51:29 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: tirednvirginia

I don’t know. I’m in support of them releasing all of it. And you, you surely support Trump doing the same, right? I mean he’s worth 10 billion, he says. Shouldn’t he be proud to show us that he’s worth all that he’s bragged about?


74 posted on 02/28/2016 5:55:43 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If there was a problem with Trump's tax returns, it would have been leaked by now - both Dems and GOPe folks are terrified of him.

It's a fool's game and fishing trip by those who exhort him to release his returns.

75 posted on 02/28/2016 6:12:06 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"there are none so blind as those who will not see"

Frankly, I can't understand your position - the law you cite states born of citizen parents, that is the ordinate clause, and the subordinate, or the additional requirement, if you prefer, is that the father must have lived in the country. Had it been written that the person must have been born of a citizen parent; singular, then your contention is correct with the additional requirement of residency in the US of the father, irrespective of the other parent's.

So let's rewrite it to fit your interpretation:

And the children that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States of fathers who have been resident in the United States shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That one parent is a citizen of the United States.

One can argue with the exact wording I present above, but it is exactly what you are asserting. Claiming that the founders intended it to be written that way begs the question - if that was why they meant, why not write it so?

76 posted on 02/28/2016 6:25:45 AM PST by par4
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; 2ndDivisionVet

Why should any presidential candidate release tax returns? Now we are rooting for the IRS? This is insane!


77 posted on 02/28/2016 6:31:48 AM PST by mouse1
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To: Bidimus1
I did not cite any laws, I responded to the law cited by another poster. The 1790 law is clear in using the term citizens, plural. Not a citizen, singular. The residency of the father (one of the citizens) is a secondary requirement.

My response was solely to the law in question and I feel I have made my interpretation as clear as possible.

I'm not going to play the game of providing multiple findings to defend my position; I provided my interpretation of the 1790 law as cited by the poster. If you find flaw with that interpretation, please feel free to elaborate. Otherwise, take your request for research elsewhere.

Regards

78 posted on 02/28/2016 6:36:06 AM PST by par4
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The more of this garbage you post, the sillier you look.

I already posted to you about the conditions if an audit. No, are you incapable of reading, or did you actually not comprehend what I wrote?


79 posted on 02/28/2016 6:38:35 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: elhombrelibre

No. I think that those who haven’t released their own tax returns to the public have no grounds to insist others do so.

Also, when you applied for your job, did you have to submit your tax return along with your resume? How about your medical records?


80 posted on 02/28/2016 6:41:46 AM PST by tirednvirginia
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