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Sen. Durbin calls Abbott Labs' IT layoffs 'harsh and insensitive’
Computer World ^ | February 29, 2016 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 03/07/2016 6:04:07 AM PST by C19fan

Abbott Labs, a global healthcare company, is laying off about 180 IT employees after signing an agreement with Wipro, a major India-based IT services firm, to take over some IT services. The employees were told about the planned cuts on Feb. 22; their last day will be April 22.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abbottlabs; corporatewelfare; h1b; immigration; offshoring; stem; trump
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To: DoodleDawg
Headcount goes down. Roger gets the axe and is not replaced. That nice Indian company Wipro, the one that Ram works for, gets the contract for providing the IT services. Offshoring and outsourcing IT functions have always been about cost reductions and not efficiencies or improved service.

You are either stupid or disingenuous. Wipro brings in Indians to the USA to work. They may technically not be employees of Abbot labs but hey will sit in their facility and work in the same places as they Americans they replaced. It is stupidly like yours that allows this insidious program to stay alive.

Go Trump,go!

61 posted on 03/07/2016 8:57:30 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C19fan

Considering that Durbin is a member of the party that dismantled Abbott, his belated concern is ironic.


62 posted on 03/07/2016 9:14:14 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: C19fan
The severance agreement...requires employees not to sue, including any legal action under the Federal Age Discrimination Employment Act.

Isn't this de facto proof that this company is practicing age discrimination??

63 posted on 03/07/2016 9:17:15 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Read Write Repeat
Even with offshoring, how do you create a tariff for lines of code?

They write crappy code and have poor work ethics. Linguistic/cultural mismatches and time zones half a world away make the offshoring ineffective. The management dopes that make these deals only look at the financial promises, not the technical consequences. They deserve the technical and financial karma that follows their stupidity.

64 posted on 03/07/2016 9:34:43 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: AppyPappy

Hell, I’d do more than that. I would show up for work every day, train my replacement INCORRECTLY, keep every bit of PTO, apply for UI, and dare them to deny me.

I’d go all the way up to the SCOTUS on this one. Eff these bast’ds.


65 posted on 03/07/2016 9:37:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: central_va
Wipro brings in Indians to the USA to work. They may technically not be employees of Abbot labs but hey will sit in their facility and work in the same places as they Americans they replaced.

You show your complete ignorance on how the scheme works. Wipro may bring some H-1Bs over for the turnover and the training, but I guarantee you that within a year 95% of the people and just about all of the work will be in an office block in Chennai or Mumbai. It's the only way the deal works. Wipro tells Abbot Labs that it can do the work for X amount per year. Abbot Labs signs the contract. Wipro isn't going to make any money, certainly not as much money, if it is paying H-1Bs U.S. salaries, even below average U.S. salaries. It'll do the knowledge transfer, send them back to India, and continue the work using $10,000 a year entry level graduates of the Indian equivalent of ITT Tech. And you know what? Nothing that Trump has proposed will even make a dent in the business.

I'll bet my bottom dollar that Disney turns out the same way.

66 posted on 03/07/2016 9:51:36 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

correct


67 posted on 03/07/2016 9:56:46 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: DoodleDawg

correct

dont forget about pune


68 posted on 03/07/2016 9:57:25 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: DoodleDawg

As I was reminded, this is an h1-b situation, not offshoring.


69 posted on 03/07/2016 9:58:39 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Read #66. They go hand in hand.


70 posted on 03/07/2016 10:00:27 AM PST by fooman (Get real with Kin Jung mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: DoodleDawg
Wipro may bring some H-1Bs over for the turnover and the training, but I guarantee you that within a year 95% of the people and just about all of the work will be in an office block in Chennai or Mumbai.

BS. I have worked it IT for 25 years so I know of what I speak. You are wrong dead wrong. It is a body switch out - Raj for Roger. Same building, same seat. Seen it a bunch of times in different organizations.

71 posted on 03/07/2016 10:03:59 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DoodleDawg

So how long did you work in IT?


72 posted on 03/07/2016 10:05:12 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
So how long did you work in IT?

I don't. But I know people who do. And I work with IT people from customers, and they talk. And talk. And talk.

73 posted on 03/07/2016 10:07:38 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: wbill

Re:”As a side note, just how much knowledge do you think was transferred? By me, or any of the other 200+ IT guys? :-)”

ROFL

good on you !


74 posted on 03/07/2016 10:33:35 AM PST by khelus
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To: DoodleDawg

Agree. And once one firm did it, they all had to follow suit. H1-b is one thing but this is the flip side of the coin ... if these companies want to get rid of expensive American staff and they can’t H1-b them, then they will outsource/offshore.

Same thing, Americans out of work, Americans training their replacements. Which is why they have a three month notice.


75 posted on 03/07/2016 11:21:36 AM PST by american colleen
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To: fooman
It has always been like that in start ups and elite organizations I have been around.

There is just simply a high fixed cost to be a good software engineer

An 80 hour week should be an option for those who want it - and 80 hours a week well spent can put one at the top of one's profession. But I've worked at a number of successful organizations and with a number of good good software engineers for whom 80 hours was unheard of ... which in my view is all to the good as they get to be more than a paycheck to their families.

76 posted on 03/07/2016 11:30:39 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Personal Responsibility

More job losses and outsourcing taking place on durban’s watch. But, of course, it’s those damn republicans.


77 posted on 03/07/2016 11:50:17 AM PST by DPMD
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To: SoothingDave

From the article:

“The workers are expecting to train their replacements, possibly workers on H-1B and other temporary visas.”


78 posted on 03/07/2016 11:53:54 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: ConservingFreedom

Thank you for clarifying that. I had no idea setting a minimum private industry salary of $100,000 was a conservative principle.


79 posted on 03/07/2016 12:50:18 PM PST by Read Write Repeat
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To: Read Write Repeat

Clueless Cruz wanted to increase it to hundreds of thousands, hell it is so out of control now, with so many exceptions like for education fields, non-profits etc.

Just stop it cold, all of it. Make the focus on matching up jobs with graduates. It is ridiculous how this system we have throws graduates out on the street to fend for themselves. Trump should come up with a better way.


80 posted on 03/07/2016 6:13:35 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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