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We’ll Bust You For The Crime You Have Not Yet Committed, But Probably Will
technocracy.news ^ | March 8, 2016 | Faye Flam

Posted on 03/09/2016 6:33:45 AM PST by pilgrim

TN Note: This whole pre-crime mentality that is sweeping the law enforcement community is very dangerous. Believing that they have the ability to accurately predict the future is an age-old deception seen practiced with Ouija Boards, Fortune Tellers, Astrology, etc....

Computers are getting pretty good at predicting the future. In many cases they do it better than people. That’s why Amazon uses them to figure out what you’re likely to buy, how Netflix knows what you might want to watch, the way meteorologists come up with accurate 10-day forecasts.

Now a team of scientists has demonstrated that a computer can outperform human judges in predicting who will commit a violent crime. In a paper published last month, they described how they built a system that started with people already arrested for domestic violence, then figured out which of them would be most likely to commit the same crime again.

The technology could potentially spare victims from being injured, or even killed. It could also keep the least dangerous offenders from going to jail unnecessarily. And yet, there’s something unnerving about using machines to decide what should happen to people. If targeted advertising misfires, nobody’s liberty is at stake.

For two decades, police departments have used computers to identify times and places where crimes are more likely to occur, guiding the deployment of officers and detectives. Now they’re going another step: using vast data sets to identify individuals who are criminally inclined. They’re doing this with varying levels of transparency and scientific testing. A system called Beware, for example, is capable of rating citizens of Fresno, California, as posing a high, medium or low level of threat. Press accounts say the system amasses data not only on past crimes but on web searches, property records and social networking posts.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: minorityreport; thoughtpolice
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The future is here, already?
1 posted on 03/09/2016 6:33:45 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: pilgrim

Thought crimes? The minority report? Orwellian.


2 posted on 03/09/2016 6:36:09 AM PST by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prosecution 2016)
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To: pilgrim

3 posted on 03/09/2016 6:36:16 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pilgrim

?? To Serve and Prevent ??

Don’t think so. If they were this confident, Po-Po would be too busy stopping every 5th vehicle on the local highway claiming “probable” DWI.

We still have the 4th Amendment.


4 posted on 03/09/2016 6:37:43 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: pilgrim

So when’s China going to arrest all those Mao commies who murdered multi-millions of Chinese?


5 posted on 03/09/2016 6:38:31 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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We’ll Bust You For The Crime You Have Not Yet Committed, But Probably Will

How do they decide that you would carry through with the crime?

If it is just thoughts, then the phrase "if looks could kill" takes on a whole new significance.

6 posted on 03/09/2016 6:38:37 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (My Forefathers Would Be Shooting By Now!)
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To: Sasparilla

The police body camera mania has been the usual flim-flam.

They claim it’s protect us from the police but it’s simply mobile CCTV meant for more control and surveillance.

What happens to a person’s 4th and 5th Amendment rights when the police are filming 24/7? How does one remain silent or refuse to be searched when the camera footage will be used with or without any statements or permission?


7 posted on 03/09/2016 6:39:03 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Minority Report takes it to a whole new level though. The crimes are inevitable.


8 posted on 03/09/2016 6:39:42 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: pilgrim

You smoke Crack?

Crime coming.


9 posted on 03/09/2016 6:39:48 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: pilgrim

Actually, the predictive technology is so far off, tossing a coin has more accurate results!

Netflix is the absolute worst! It NEVER puts up the kinds of movies I want to watch, and instead insists on displaying the kinds of movies I don’t like. On the older netflix software, you could choose the categories you enjoy most, or you could choose to never show this or that. So, when I chose never show this or that, what pops up for movie choices? The stuff I absolutely don’t want to watch!

For that reason, I won’t subscribe.

So, if law enforcement technology is as accurate as Netflix, then we should all be scared, VERY scared! Because Netflix is very far from even being close. You can end up accused of doing the very things you reject.


10 posted on 03/09/2016 6:40:48 AM PST by PrairieLady2 (If you Cruze, you looze. Bye, Bye Miss American Pie...)
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To: pilgrim

And the potential to abuse anything like this is absolute. Why, we have computer models now that show us that temperatures are going to be too high if we don’t pay a lot more for our energy and much higher taxes.


11 posted on 03/09/2016 6:41:49 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty; azkathy

Do not know the answers.

This may answer part of the question?

“The family of Robert LaVoy Finicum, 55, who was killed by police in connection with a protest occupation of federal property in Oregon, have lashed out at the government’s official justification for his death, charging it was a “set up assassination.”

Critics point out police investigators in Bend, Oregon, said one FBI agent was suspected of lying about the shooting. And Finicum’s supporters suspect four other agents may have helped cover up misbehavior.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/set-up-assassination-alleged-in-fbi-kill-shots/#mpXZCk15POaQYIZf.99


12 posted on 03/09/2016 6:42:43 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: pilgrim

Don’t know about the experiences of others, but those up-front claims about Amazon, Netflix and Weather forecasting don’t persuade. Amazon is always recommending stuff I don’t want, need, or buy. Netflix doesn’t know me. And the weather predicting often enough is wrong by afternoon.

So, predicting crimes? C’mon.


13 posted on 03/09/2016 6:42:55 AM PST by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: pilgrim

I don’t want to arrest people for stuff they haven’t done yet. But I would like for the computer to say “Justin the neighborhood bike thief is going to be on the prowl again tonight, let’s send some cop cars to the area and crimp his style”. Don’t arrest if they don’t catch perps doing something, but be visible and discourage.


14 posted on 03/09/2016 6:44:29 AM PST by discostu (This unit not labeled for individual sale)
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To: pilgrim

No computer can predict the future. A program, written by a human, can calculate the probability of something happening. That passes for “prediction.”

Amazon doesn’t figure out what you’re likely to buy. It calculates the statistical probability of something, based on your past purchases,
and those of people with similar past purchases. No miracle. Just a well-written program.

People who have committed several crimes before are, according to statistical probability, more likely to commit crimes again.
Grandma in her rocking-chair is not likely to be driving by her homies in da hood and smoking them.


15 posted on 03/09/2016 6:44:52 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: pilgrim
We better build A LOT more jails! There's a whole lotta "black lies matter" idiots that are headed off to jail if this ever comes to fruition!
16 posted on 03/09/2016 6:45:15 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: pilgrim

What happens when these machines start to profile based on race and religion?


17 posted on 03/09/2016 6:45:39 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: StAntKnee

I understand that! :)

Just post’em don’t write’em and do not always agree.

I see the inaccuracy in this but do THEY? (cfeo) ref #12


18 posted on 03/09/2016 6:46:55 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: Yo-Yo

It will be shut down? :)

Can’t have that!!!


19 posted on 03/09/2016 6:47:39 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: pilgrim
We’ll Bust You For The Crime You Have Not Yet Committed, But Probably Will

I saw a video this morning that apparently has just come to light - Finicum's truck was hit with gunfire as he drove along and well BEFORE he stopped, got out and was summarily executed by the Feds.

20 posted on 03/09/2016 6:48:22 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (My Forefathers Would Be Shooting By Now!)
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