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London ‘more Islamic’ than Muslim world — scholar
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2:25PM GMT 09 Mar 2016 | John Bingham

Posted on 03/09/2016 10:02:04 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai; All

London has had Islamic and Arab populations since the 1950’s and 60’s. Until 1989 and the Rushdie affair, they were no problem.

London is a city, and by nature multicultural. It has always taken in immigrants: Jews, Irish, blacks, Sikhs and Hindus, Italians, Greeks, HK Chinese, Asians etc. So the idea that London has been a white city with British/English only is a fiction of old Sherlock Holmes films. There have been non whites in London since the 1700s. The first black policeman in the UK was in London in 1837.

Yes, there is a sizeable Muslim pop in the city, but most of the city is NOT Muslim. And contrary to hype/myth, there are still plenty of areas of London which are white native. And areas where Muslims are few.

Finally, London is not England or the UK, anymore than NY or LA are America. 96% of the UK is NOT Muslim. 92% of the UK is white. Three parts of the UK have tiny Muslim and ethnic populations: Scotland, Wales and NI. All with 1% or less Muslim populations and small ethnic populations.

The UK has serious issues with extreme Islam that it is and needs to continue to address. BUT it is also important to counter the myths, lies and outright rubbish spoken about the UK and to discuss the issue knowing the real facts about the UK, not internet myth and heresay.


21 posted on 03/10/2016 6:44:35 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: FreedomGuru

It is still is. It wont be ruined. Whilst the UK has problems with Islam, a lot of what you read here and in the US is OTT to say the least.


22 posted on 03/10/2016 6:45:44 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: ShivaFan

Do tell.


23 posted on 03/10/2016 6:45:55 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: Olog-hai

Another myth: Muslims are the biggest ethnic UK group. Not true. Black British from the Caribbean migration of 1948 through the 50s/60s are the largest ethnic group. Add to that black non Muslim Africans.


24 posted on 03/10/2016 6:48:30 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: Olog-hai

The largest ethnic influx of the last 25 yrs ironically has been the WHITE influx from Poland and Eastern Europe, under easier EU travel rules.


25 posted on 03/10/2016 6:49:36 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: LongWayHome

I think that’s rather the point.

London and the UK never was the London and UK of films. Only the barmy or ignorant think Scotland was like Brigadoon or Greyfriars Bobby. Or London was the London of Sherloc’ Olmes.


26 posted on 03/10/2016 6:54:13 AM PST by the scotsman
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London and the UK never was the London and UK of films. Only the barmy or ignorant think Scotland was like Brigadoon or Greyfriars Bobby. Or London was the London of Sherloc’ Olmes.

Be our stereotype or I swear we'll nuke you.


27 posted on 03/10/2016 6:57:00 AM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: Olog-hai
My sister and niece are here now visiting for a couple of weeks. My sister is non-political, but her daughter (who works for the NHS in London) is very much a liberal.

When asked why Europe has to change their ways to accommodate Muslims, she says because it must be such a culture shock to move from someplace that is so "orthodox" to a place like Europe. It's Europe's duty to change to lessen that culture shock for them.

28 posted on 03/10/2016 7:00:53 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Olog-hai

In 2010 the census had London at 45% foreigners. Half. Today, it is no doubt much more than that.


29 posted on 03/10/2016 7:20:34 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: the scotsman

“needs to continue to address”

Continue? The UK hasn’t even started to.

This “address” word is nothing but a dismissive word used by liars when they need to trivialize something.


30 posted on 03/10/2016 7:26:12 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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31 posted on 03/10/2016 7:27:57 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: LongWayHome

They don’t call it Londonstan for nothing.


32 posted on 03/10/2016 7:32:19 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CodeToad

Actually we have.

We have anti-extremist programs, we’ve jailed many extremists. But hey, I am just someone who actually lives in the UK, what do I know.

And address, Einstein, means that its a deep rooted social issue within a community which we need to expose and root out. We wont beat extremism by being John Wayne all day.


33 posted on 03/10/2016 7:43:55 AM PST by the scotsman
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” what do I know.”

Not much. Your propaganda is well known here on FR, an American website.

You first tried to claim there were no muslim neighborhoods in London, but after overwhelming evidence to the contrary you had to change your bs story.


34 posted on 03/10/2016 7:45:33 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I hear ya....it’s sad & it’s not getting better. Refugees are still pouring into the UK.


35 posted on 03/10/2016 7:52:27 AM PST by LongWayHome
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To: CodeToad

Never claimed such a thing.

F*ck off.


36 posted on 03/10/2016 7:59:10 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: CodeToad

Your personal attacks on me on FR are also well known.

You have outright lied many times and claimed I have made comments and posts I have never done.

I have never claimed there are no Muslim areas of London, nor did I change any such claim.

If I did so, POST THEM OR STFU.


37 posted on 03/10/2016 8:01:34 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

The London I toured in the 1970s is light years from the festering Muslim cesspit it is now.


38 posted on 03/10/2016 8:02:26 AM PST by LongWayHome
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To: the scotsman

“I have never claimed there are no Muslim areas of London”

Not my job to go back and do research on you. You are not my hero not worth m time except to call you out on your propaganda.

Your, “There are no muslims neighborhoods in London”, routine got real old.


39 posted on 03/10/2016 8:06:34 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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The notion of Muslims as an ethnic group is being pushed?
40 posted on 03/10/2016 8:06:41 AM PST by Olog-hai
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