Posted on 03/10/2016 4:43:51 PM PST by Nachum
Edited on 03/10/2016 7:23:37 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Not going to rehash that stuff - if you want sources go find them - as for my personal sources they remain private.
Nice, collecting another ad hominum... thank you, thank you - have made my day.
The New World order, or the lack there of. Those in power seek to eliminate all semblance of God and replace it with their own ideals and lusts. Lusts for power. We have lusts of the Flesh, Lusts of the eyes, and the Pride of life as the dominate belief in DC. We are lost as a country
Only if we follow those who would lead us into the abyss.
At least they’re admitting that all the NSA, FBI, and local law enforcement surveillance need not have anything to do with national security or the like.
It’s worth remembering that one of John Ashcroft’s first uses of his new powers under the Patriot Act was to prosecute some Las Vegas strip club owners for crimes wholly unrelated to terrorism or national security.
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2003-11-13/news/0311130237_1_patriot-act-vegas-strip-las-vegas
Ya think????
Some folks who used to live in Waco and eastern Oregon have a different perspective.
Did Radley Balko give a flip about Tea Party members being targeted by the IRS?
Google, how does it work?
https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/333793578608373760
Balko focuses on state violence rather than the IRS, but I think this tweet should clear things up for you.
ok - I’m 97.3% certain that you made it up.
Its the three percent which will get you every time ... unfortunately no, but I wish I had.
All cases involved Treaty Tribes including the one I cited in the last post - one was a Florida tribe - you could look them up on SCOTUS’s site - or you used to be able.
Interesting in light of discussion regarding self-driving cars, elsewhere on this forum.
Snicker ...
Snowden is a scumbag. He managed to expose a bunch of other scumbags. That doesn’t make him a hero or a patriot.
Yep, guy’s a jerk... Thanks for the link.
I think FR is well versed in dealing with posters claiming to secret inside sources.
It NEVER ends well for these posters. - but it does end, just ask deepinthe hurtgenforest, if you can find him.
Secret? No - just people I worked with when I was at NSA and still talk wit hon occasion ... You do not have to like it, but not everything classified is in print nor available for the public ... general stuff is OK like Eddy Snowjob taking mostly military stuff and very else - no methods means in saying that, besides which the Russians and Chinese have it all already thanks to him.
Quit being so snarky, I worked in the same general area as Eddy so I know what he likely got broadly speaking and friends confirm.
He is a traitor of the worst sort - the non-mil stuff is just cover for media and public consumption - something to take your eyes off the prizes he really took.
bkmk
Are you familiar with dithf?
I have the feeling you will be before this is over.
“Before Bush and Obama, the NSA as a DOD agency was strictly forbidden from being a domestic spy agency.”
If this were fifty years ago I would have to agree wholeheartedly, but in these messed-up times it has be qualified a bit. In the past nearly all of America’s enemies were on foreign soil, except what spies could infiltrate the country. The NSA was formed to keep an eye on the evils in foreign lands which might pose a threat to the US, and the FBI was in charge of domestic investigations. In recent decades that has changed dramatically.
Fifty years ago the NSA had little need to spy on average Americans because most were law-abiding, patriotic, hard-working taxpayers, however the demographics are much different now. In recent years the government has encouraged illegal immigration, with millions pouring across our nearly non-existent borders. They’ve encouraged and provided means and funding for the influx of hordes of “refugees” from all across the globe, many of whom are known to be enemies of the US. No longer is the average American white middle-class with a job and a mortgage. The FBI alone can no longer maintain the security of a country with untold millions of potential enemies living within our midst.
The NSA has the means to obtain information desperately needed by domestic law enforcement, but we must hope it is gathered and used wisely. We as individuals are not giving up our freedoms and privacy for the sake of security, it was imposed upon us by a corrupt, greedy and insanely naive government. Our loss of freedom is not of our own making, and we bear no guilt for it. Times have changed, and we can never go back to what we had before. However, if the NSA/FBI is watching my “refugee” neighbors and discover they are running a meth lab or bomb factory in their basement or mosque, I would prefer they do so rather than no one watching them at all. Unfortunately, they will be watching me at the same time.
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