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1 posted on 03/17/2016 1:15:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Kaminsky is stupid. Obama campaigned against NAFTA too, but then pushed TPP. Hillary was for TPP before she was against it, and even suggested she might change her position on TPP again later.

The Uniparty is all in favor of “free trade” because that is what the money interests demand, regardless of what they say to get elected. Cruz included. He campaigned for TPA, and only turned against it at the last minute.


2 posted on 03/17/2016 1:17:57 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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Three cheers for 40 million out of work U. S. Citizens.

Hip hip...

Hey, wait a minute!


3 posted on 03/17/2016 1:19:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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Yeah, I know. It’s only been 30 years of short runs and 19 trillion in debt.


4 posted on 03/17/2016 1:20:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place;
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four —
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man —
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began: —
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
5 posted on 03/17/2016 1:22:56 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Hain't we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain't that a big enough majority in any town?)
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These deals aren’t free trade, they are managed trade!


6 posted on 03/17/2016 1:27:49 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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So silly. Tariffs serve multiple goals when used wisely.

Have watched the problem on the border since the ninties and have brokers in the family.

Trump is correct. NAFTA is a globalist tool to establish the NAU.


7 posted on 03/17/2016 1:35:06 AM PDT by amihow (l)
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If free trade worked as advertised this would not be happening in America right now with Trump or Sanders. It has been around for like 30 years or so we real world data to reflect on.


8 posted on 03/17/2016 1:35:28 AM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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If free trade is so good how come China poisoned our dogs?


12 posted on 03/17/2016 1:44:10 AM PDT by donna (Radicalized Christians become missionaries; then, they tell everyone that Jesus loves them!)
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“Trade should be debated in terms of its impact on efficiency, not in terms of phony numbers about jobs created or lost.” - Paul Krugman, 1993

I’ll text this to my husband as he boards a plane to India where he will train double the amount of Americans his company laid off.


14 posted on 03/17/2016 1:56:30 AM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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Free trade theoretically has its merits. But when free trade is coupled with ill-conceived legislation and regulation a country’s workers pay the price. Furthermore, when free trade which is also fair impairs the viability of industries vital to the national defense, free trade must move to the rear of the bus.


18 posted on 03/17/2016 2:10:28 AM PDT by monocle
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Because trade is going so well for us. Even when I was a kid I new Nafta was fishy.


19 posted on 03/17/2016 2:12:32 AM PDT by toddausauras (Trump 2016)
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Youngstown, Detroit, and Cleveland will all lead the cheer.


23 posted on 03/17/2016 2:31:42 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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This guy is insane. He approves of unfair trade.


24 posted on 03/17/2016 2:45:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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Donald Trump and his fellow liberals Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are lambasting free trade as the scourge of the American working man.

First, how "free" is free trade? Second exactly why do Trump, Clinton, and Sanders lambast free trade? All for the same reasons? Are there any differences?

A responsible journalist would actually provide the context of their article about free trade, rather than assuming that the reader will "buy" such an outlandish opening statement.

Or, is this just another hit piece on the Donald?

31 posted on 03/17/2016 3:14:54 AM PDT by olezip
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Calling it "FREE" trade is the biggest joke in the world.

There ain't nothing "FREE" about it, and we are all paying the price.

35 posted on 03/17/2016 3:38:43 AM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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Dumping subsidized exports on our shores while at the same time using administrative red tape to block ours is not “free trade”.


47 posted on 03/17/2016 4:20:54 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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How can we have free trade when other countries cheat with such tactics as massive currency manipulation?


55 posted on 03/17/2016 4:35:18 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Yes Free Trade would be nice, we don’t have it. We have Managed Trade

Read about Bretton Woods. The theory was we would use the strength of the US Economy to manage trade relationships to further US Foreign Policy Goals.

That maybe made sense post WW2 and during the Cold War. It is anachronistic now.


61 posted on 03/17/2016 4:53:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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“Free Trade” requires a willing buyer and a willing seller in a competitive market on a level level playing field aka fair trade. What we have now is Cronyism aka Anti-trust aka Restraint of trade.

If the global players were inside the US their trade agreements would violate almost every anti-trust laws we have and the mega corps would be broken up like Shell Oil Ma Bell etc for the same reasons.

This is not a free market trade issue. Its addressing anti-free-trade cronyism.


66 posted on 03/17/2016 5:26:47 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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Because it’s so much more beneficial to have half a trillion dollars imbalance with China and to have us pay even more on top because most of our deals favor others and make the American people the biggest faucet of welfare funds the world has ever seen. We are paying for those cheap products even though most don’t realize it because it comes out in taxes rather than on the price tag.


67 posted on 03/17/2016 5:26:57 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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