Posted on 03/23/2016 12:32:41 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy
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Yeah this. Apparently the author completely missed this group.
They seem to be the same as Neocons and conservative "intellectuals" like Brooksie, Jennifer Rubin, George Will, and others who've been overly friendly to the First Black, despite his openly Marxist-Leninist, jihadi-hugging, Anglo-American-hating, neo-MauMau agenda.
Someone measured Jen Rubin's positions and found she is rock-solidly conservative ..... 53% of the time, and never on social issues; she is also a charter Palin-hater almost as bad as Katie Couric and Maureen Dowd. (Don't have a Rules photo, sorry.)
There is an outside chance some of that would happen with President Trump. There is an absolute certainty just about all of that will happen, and more, with a President Hillary.
Sitting on a fork between Beastwoman and Trump, sure, go for Trump.
But if you are sincerely concerned about Trump's personality and fitness for office, you still have somewhere to go, which is Ted Cruz, as a reasonable alternative to succumbing to the Trump/Beastwoman fork.
The major risk with Cruz is that a) he might lose to Hillary (even with Trump according to polls, on that score), and b) even if he gets elected, there is so much GOP-E resentment toward him in DC that he wouldn't be able to charm birds to poop on him, much less get the GOP cauci to cooperate with him. (Again, conceivably equally true of insurgent Trump.)
You're not stuck with a Trump/Beastie dichotomy. If anyone other than Trump can win the nomination, it would be Cruz. And Cruz has so far outpolled or polled even with Trump in a head-up election opposite Hillary.
I'm sorry, but Cruz staying in is the only gambit the GOPe has left, which is why they are backing him, but they will stab him in the back as soon as he walks into the arena in Cleveland.
They might, but why condition your choices on that premise? If the GOP-E jobs everybody but Yeb! or Rubiocito, then they job people .... If I prefer Cruz, why should I switch to another candidate because the GOP-E or Beastwoman might pull an Article II/NBC lawsuit out of their capacious butts, when they haven't done so, so far?
Do you expect Hillary, between now and October, to be able to get Cruz removed from ballots in 25-30-40 States, if he is the nominee? The GOP electors would go 1796 on her if that happened, and select another GOP candidate she can't touch -- and that could be anyone: Rand Paul, Duncan Hunter, you name 'em, it'd be absolutely wide-open at this point because it'd be the Electors, not convention delegates, who'd be selecting the President at that point. We'd get a total faceful of Originalism, and screw the GOP-E!
Did you read the title or article or are you really this dumb? It’s about those in the “never Trump” crowd.
I’m a #5. Someone who recognized long ago that your emperor has no clothes.
Because that by far is the most likely outcome of a brokered convention, given the past history of the GOPe.
Too, even if the GOP-E "appear" to be supporting Cruz at the moment, to beat Trump, why is that bad? Do you really think Cruz will owe them Luciferian fealty forever? For a few million bucks in political funny-money?
None of us can answer for what the defeated remnants of the Democratic Party of 40 years ago will do, dispossessed by the neo-Stalinist Progs of their own party. They appear to be gravitating toward Donald Trump, who is really one of them as shown by his own vita; and their help would be appreciated by all of us if we can beat Beastwoman. But do we really want to walk away from our own principles and give up our own objectives, just to house people who lost their own party? It's they who should have to "settle" -- not we.
Yes, I know you're concerned that the PRC will a) Beat Donald, b) Beat Ted, c) Impose unvetted nominee (Yeb, etc.) on party faithful, someone who will be spat out by the base and defeated by Hee-a-Ree the Beastwoman. But those people will do whatever they do, and if they do work successfully to impose their heart's desire, they will destroy "their" party and make way for another .... perhaps after a long night of dictatorial misrule by the 'Rat Party, operating as a national-level RICO, an openly and frankly corrupt machine hated by all. And we can only do what honest people know to do, which is to vote for whoever we can, to try to overcome the scheming of the "party people" of both parties. That's all we can do, in the end.
You are just not getting it. There is no realistic scenario where Cruz gets the nomination. If he denies Trump the nomination, he opens the door for the GOPe to install their choice as nominee. Since you refuse to acknowledge that salient fact, there really isn’t any point continuing this discussion.
5. I don’t vote for lying liberals.
If he denies Trump the nomination, he opens the door for the GOPe to install their choice as nominee.
This scenario is obvious on its face; it’s the only possible explanation for Kasich’s remaining in the race...it appears the party’s thinking is this; regardless of nominee, FL is a get from 2012, and possibly IA or CO, maybe both with the right guy. Maybe even VA, though that is a bit of a stretch. And the big cherry on top? OH, of course, with its own governor bringing the state over from the 2012 map...all the above, excepting VA, gets the Pubs to 268 EV’s, where picking up NH could get them over the top...
Neither Trump nor Cruz is likely to garner 268 EV’s in their calculus; Kasich is. And they will move mountains to make that happen...
Sorry, but Trump is the only one showing a broad appeal into Independents and Dems. And the GOPe installing Kasich or Ryan is pretty much guaranteed to lose the November election for the nominee.
Donald Trump is the Democratic candidate who was never nominated after 1972 -- he might be the guy Bill "Blue Dog [Phony]" Clinton pretended to be in 1992, to get the nomination. But he's a mainline Democrat, circa 1970.
The implication of Trump's success so far is that we're unable to nominate a conservative any longer (if you're right about Cruz, but we'll never find out if we take your advice), the GOP is unable to win any longer with their Mitts and Doles and Bushes, and the old mainline Democrats are migrating over to the GOP, but the PRC doesn't want them, they want George P. Bush, Marco Rubio, and a Latin-GOP future.
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