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Why There Are Muslim Ghettos in Belgium, But Not in the US
Townhall.com ^ | March 28, 2016 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 03/28/2016 8:16:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

LONG BEFORE Tuesday's terror attacks in Brussels, it was clear that Belgium had become a breeding ground for Islamist extremists. Hundreds of Belgian Muslims — as many as 500, according to one estimate — have gone to Syria and Iraq to fight for ISIS, making Belgium by far Europe's leading supplier of foreign jihadists. Last November's horrific slaughter in Paris was masterminded by a Belgian radical, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, and at least four of the men who carried out those attacks were from the Brussels district of Molenbeek. One of them was Salah Abdeslam, who was captured in Molenbeek, after an intense manhunt, on March 19.

For Islamist imams and terrorist ringleaders, such neighborhoods — heavily Muslim, densely populated, with high unemployment and crime rates — have proved fertile territory for recruiting violent jihadists. "There is almost always a link with Molenbeek. That's a gigantic problem, of course," Belgium's prime minister said after the Paris atrocities.

But it's only recently that the country's security officials began confronting that "gigantic problem" with an appropriate sense of urgency. The New York Times reported last fall that weeks before the Paris attacks, Molenbeek's mayor, Françoise Schepmans, was given a list of more than 80 Islamist terror suspects living in her district. She took no action and was unapologetic even after three of the men on the list took part in the Paris massacre.

"What was I supposed to do about them?" Schepmans told the Times. "It is not my job to track possible terrorists."

That jaw-dropping complacency helps explain how an ISIS fifth column has been able to operate with such brazenness in Western Europe. But incompetent policing doesn't explain why Muslims living in neighborhoods like Molenbeek, or in the banlieues outside Paris that have experienced violent riots, should be susceptible to Islamist radicalization in the first place.

Muslim communities, after all, are not inherently predisposed to violence. The presence of a sizable Muslim population in a non-Muslim-majority country does not inevitably presage jihadist bloodshed or demands for the imposition of sharia. It is true that some 650,000 Muslims live in Belgium, but five times as many — 3.3 million — live in the United States. Why hasn't America become a hotbed of Islamic extremism? Why aren't American Muslims by the thousands flocking to fight for ISIS, Al Qaeda, and other terrorist organizations? Why, despite the efforts of Islamist pressure groups such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) — a Muslim supremacist operation that masquerades as an advocate for civil rights — are most American Muslims intent on adopting America's customs and way of life?

The United States has been far more successful at assimilating and integrating Muslim immigrants into American society and culture than has Western Europe. There are no Muslim ghettoes here like those in Molenbeek or the Paris suburbs, where authorities turn a blind eye to antisocial behavior and aggressive incitement by radicals preaching jihad. Of course there have been some heinous exceptions, such as the Tsarnaev brothers, the Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hassan, or the killers in San Bernardino. And mosques in American cities have often been built with funding from Saudi Arabia, which promotes a harsh and puritanical version of Islam.

Nevertheless, at the grass-roots level, Muslims in the United States, like other cultural and religious minorities, have had no problem acclimating to mainstream norms. In a detailed 2011 survey, the Pew Research Center found that Muslim Americans are "highly assimilated into American society and . . . largely content with their lives." More than 80 percent of US Muslims expressed satisfaction with life in America, and 63 percent said they felt no conflict "between being a devout Muslim and living in a modern society." The rates at which they participate in various everyday American activities — from following local sports teams to watching entertainment TV — are similar to those of the American public generally. Half of all Muslim immigrants display the US flag at home, in the office, or on their car.

Given America's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the bloody battles with Islamic regimes and insurgents, and the threat to homeland security from "lone wolf" terror attacks, it might seem surprising that Muslims in Detroit or Brooklyn aren't at least as alienated as those in Molenbeek. But they aren't. For despite the rise of identity politics and the balkanizing pressures of multicultural correctness, America's melting pot still works. Generations of Muslim immigrants have come to America to escape repression, poverty, or war in their homelands. The life they have made for themselves here has been freer, safer, more prosperous, and more embracing than the existence they left behind. There are tensions, but not enough to keep most Muslims from fitting themselves comfortably into the American mosaic.

At a time when populist demagogues are doing so much damage to our social fabric, it is well to remember why Molenbeek is a European phenomenon, and not an American one. At the core of the American experience is a conviction that immigrants who come to America can and should become Americans. Patriotic assimilation turns profoundly dissimilar foreigners into proud and happy Americans. "Muslims in the United States," Pew found, "reject extremism by much larger margins than most Muslim publics" around the world.


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To: Kaslin

“Muslims in the United States,” Pew found, “reject extremism by much larger margins than most Muslim publics” around the world.


Everybody feel better now?


61 posted on 03/28/2016 9:18:01 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Lent

Muslims also have a much higher percentage of their group on welfare than any other group. They are using our system to destroy us.


62 posted on 03/28/2016 9:20:43 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: El Cid

Why hasn’t America become a hotbed of Islamic extremism? Why aren’t American Muslims by the thousands flocking to fight for ISIS, Al Qaeda, and other terrorist organizations? Why, despite the efforts of Islamist pressure groups such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) — a Muslim supremacist operation that masquerades as an advocate for civil rights


America has not yet hit that threshold - so things seem ‘ok’ (not counting 911, Fort Hood, San Bernardino, Merced, etc...).

An answer to the question. Thank you.


63 posted on 03/28/2016 9:20:51 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Mercat

Yeah, I had a friend who was raising her kids with a lot of diversity and they started acting ghetto and “gangy” and so she moved them to a white enclave and they became preppy and perfectly behaved and well adjusted. Go figure.


64 posted on 03/28/2016 9:38:57 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: cartan

Probably the mosque, and the hookah bar are where you’ll find the males. Women shopping and home cooking.


65 posted on 03/28/2016 9:40:24 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Kaslin
I lived in the United Kingdom for several years. There were three major groups of immigrants to the UK from their former colonies. Muslims from Pakistan and India, Hindus from India and Pakistan and Blacks from the Caribbean.

The Hindus integrated with no problems. The Blacks from the Caribbean integrated with no problems. The Pakistani Hindus integrated with no problems. The Muslims from Pakistan or any places from the colonies have not integrated and there are lots of problems as in death and destruction.

I find it most telling that the Pakistani Muslims and Pakistani Hindus are genetically the same people and only the Muslims have not integrated in to British Society.

This is not difficult to define. The Muslim faith as defined in the Koran is totally incompatible with British
law and tradition. That faith defines what law and government is. Their faith must be the one and the same as the government, there is no separation of the two and as such government and religion are all one unit.

The tenets of their faith make it absolutely impossible to integrate into our society. It would be a sin.

ps
My best man at my wedding was a Muslim Palestinian, he is like a brother to me. He has integrated into our society here in the United States. He is the exception and would be considered an apostate back home. It is not easy to be an apostate!

66 posted on 03/28/2016 9:40:29 AM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN, CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: PROCON

From the penthouse to the outhouse in three generations.


67 posted on 03/28/2016 9:41:24 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: longfellowsmuse

How about Dearborn,MI?


68 posted on 03/28/2016 9:53:03 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: Mercat
In Arizona

Cesar Chavez High School:
1,634 students, or 73.4% of the student population identify as Hispanic, making up the majority of the student body.

Typical school in Laveen (near Phoenix)
55.5% Hispanic students,

State of Arizona:
42.8% Hispanic students on average

69 posted on 03/28/2016 9:54:17 AM PDT by donna (Radicalized Christians become missionaries; then, they tell everyone that Jesus loves them!)
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To: Kaslin

Dearbornistan?


70 posted on 03/28/2016 10:08:40 AM PDT by gunsmithkat (There is no such thing as Too Many Guns)
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To: Kaslin

Because before obummer we used to take in, as Trump would say “the good ones...”
My neighbor from Iran has owned multiple businesses and is one of the hardest working people I know.


71 posted on 03/28/2016 10:13:23 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Kaslin
Why hasn't America become a hotbed of Islamic extremism?

We could play Cowboys and Muslims.

72 posted on 03/28/2016 10:45:25 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Blennos

The statement you are commenting on is without a doubt, in all my years on this Earth, the stupidest thing I have ever read. I’m sitting stunned that anyone can be so stupid as to put something like that to print.


73 posted on 03/28/2016 10:50:37 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Blennos

The statement you are commenting on is without a doubt, in all my years on this Earth, the stupidest thing I have ever read. I’m sitting stunned that anyone can be so stupid as to put something like that to print.


74 posted on 03/28/2016 10:51:13 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: Kaslin
Why There Are Muslim Ghettos in Belgium, But Not in the US?

Just wait. nobama's doing all he can to correct this error.

Be careful what you wish for.

75 posted on 03/28/2016 11:07:55 AM PDT by upchuck (MAGA!!)
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To: heights

They and the Chinese have quite literally bought us with our own money.


76 posted on 03/28/2016 11:20:05 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: Kenton
If the cops can't protect us from them, the cops can't protect them from us either.

I'm stealing that.

77 posted on 03/28/2016 11:32:30 AM PDT by toast
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To: Kaslin

Belgium is about the size of Connecticut, square miles and population.
No where near comparable.
Belgium 11.6 k sq miles, population 10 mil. Muslims, 650,000 .... 15%
Connecticut 12 k sq. miles, pop 12 mil.

WE are at 1%
From what I’ve read 5% Muslim is the point that real trouble begins.
Zer0 is doing his best to get us to that point.


78 posted on 03/28/2016 12:43:42 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: longfellowsmuse

That’s what they are trying to do with the “Fergusons” of the country, turn them into Shariah No-Go Zones where police won’t tread.


79 posted on 03/28/2016 12:44:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jmacusa
The statement you are commenting on is without a doubt, in all my years on this Earth, the stupidest thing I have ever read.

It definitely ranks high on the list of foolish statements.

80 posted on 03/28/2016 12:57:48 PM PDT by Blennos
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