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Investigating Reports Of 17 Men Chanting, Firing Off Shots In Apple Valley [CA]
CBS ^ | 3-29-16

Posted on 03/29/2016 6:11:04 PM PDT by SJackson

APPLE VALLEY (CBSLA.com) — The FBI on Tuesday continued to investigate an incident in which 17 men were detained for reportedly firing off hundreds of rounds in a remote part of Apple Valley.

San Bernardino County Sheriff’s deputies and an FBI agent responded to the scene Sunday morning and detained the men – reportedly all of Middle Eastern descent – who were camping out in the Deep Creek Hot Springs area Sunday morning, authorities said.

A 911 caller reported hearing over 100 shots fired and seeing five to seven men wearing turbans and shooting “assault rifles, handguns, and shotguns,” according to a Sheriff’s Department statement.

A county sheriff’s helicopter located the men walking near a creek with backpacks “and other items”, The Los Angeles Times reported.

Officials say the men were cooperative as they were detained and searched.

Several handguns, a rifle, and a shotgun were found at the scene, but a records check found all the weapons were registered with the exception of the rifle, which reportedly didn’t have a serial number because it was purchased in parts, an FBI spokesperson told The Times.

Police scanner traffic posted online by the Victor Valley News Group described “a large group of subjects wearing turbans and chanting” at the scene.

“They were up all night chanting ‘Allah akbar’-type stuff,” an unidentified officer is heard saying on the audio recording.

None of the hikers interviewed by Sheriff’s investigators say they witnessed any shots being fired, according to Sheriff’s officials.

A photo of the arrests showing several men handcuffed at the scene was posted by the Victor Valley News Group but was not immediately confirmed by authorities.

All 17 men were eventually released because Sheriff’s investigators say they had no outstanding warrants or criminal histories. All but one of the guns was registered.

“There was no evidence found that a crime had been committed by any of the subjects who were detained and they were released,” a Sheriff’s spokesperson said.

The FBI will conduct further interviews with the men to determine if any crimes were committed.

Nearby residents said they were concerned by the activity.

“If there’s something going on wouldn’t you want your local police or law enforcement to take care of it so that citizens like you or myself don’t have to ate it into their own hands?” said a resident, APPLE VALLEY (CBSLA.com) — The FBI on Tuesday continued to investigate an incident in which 17 men were detained for reportedly firing off hundreds of rounds in a remote part of Apple Valley.

San Bernardino County Sheriff’s deputies and an FBI agent responded to the scene Sunday morning and detained the men – reportedly all of Middle Eastern descent – who were camping out in the Deep Creek Hot Springs area Sunday morning, authorities said.

A 911 caller reported hearing over 100 shots fired and seeing five to seven men wearing turbans and shooting “assault rifles, handguns, and shotguns,” according to a Sheriff’s Department statement.

A county sheriff’s helicopter located the men walking near a creek with backpacks “and other items”, The Los Angeles Times reported.

Officials say the men were cooperative as they were detained and searched.

Several handguns, a rifle, and a shotgun were found at the scene, but a records check found all the weapons were registered with the exception of the rifle, which reportedly didn’t have a serial number because it was purchased in parts, an FBI spokesperson told The Times.

Police scanner traffic posted online by the Victor Valley News Group described “a large group of subjects wearing turbans and chanting” at the scene.

“They were up all night chanting ‘Allah akbar’-type stuff,” an unidentified officer is heard saying on the audio recording.

None of the hikers interviewed by Sheriff’s investigators say they witnessed any shots being fired, according to Sheriff’s officials.

A photo of the arrests showing several men handcuffed at the scene was posted by the Victor Valley News Group but was not immediately confirmed by authorities.

All 17 men were eventually released because Sheriff’s investigators say they had no outstanding warrants or criminal histories. All but one of the guns was registered.

“There was no evidence found that a crime had been committed by any of the subjects who were detained and they were released,” a Sheriff’s spokesperson said.

The FBI will conduct further interviews with the men to determine if any crimes were committed.

Nearby residents said they were concerned by the activity.

“If there’s something going on wouldn’t you want your local police or law enforcement to take care of it so that citizens like you or myself don’t have to ate it into their own hands?” said a resident.


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To: SJackson

We know that there are terror cells embedded across the country.

These guys were just training to prefect their weapons use for a coming attack.

They were probably in a Koran study group with the San Bernardino killers.

When the signal is given, all groups like this have to do is stop at a freeway overpass, show up at a day care, shopping mall or sports arena.

And it’s Jihad-a-rama.


41 posted on 03/29/2016 9:20:13 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: DoughtyOne

SB Sheriff’s Dept is stretched thin.

Incident appears to only have one FBI agent witnessing events.

Halfway between 29 Palms and Ft Irwin.

Realistic? Yes.

Would you venture into Harlem, wearing a KKK outfit, start roasting mannequins hanging from trees and shooting pistols while calling out the ‘N’ word? No different behavior than what these folk are bringing to the table.

A rifle built from parts without a serial number and firing other weapons while wearing turbans and shouting Allah Ackbar phrases? BATF could hold them for even lesser charges.

Locals in law enforcement and in the military feel it.

Lots of people from Chicago brought into the neighborhoods with independent incomes greater than the highest paid local desert officials over the past 6 years.

Something is brewing and nobody seems to have the whole picture, but lots of different corrupt justifications arise to condone such behavior. Lots of people with Masonic connections take leave and vacation at the same time outside of normal holiday periods.

Something is brewing.


42 posted on 03/29/2016 9:44:40 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: SJackson

80% receivers often come with templates that make them pretty easy to finish.


43 posted on 03/29/2016 9:56:34 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: SJackson
CA doesn’t register firearms, do they?

All FFL sales result in a "registered" firearm that can be tracked to you, the buyer. The FFL keeps the records for at least 5 years (most longer), Form 4473.
At present that information is not data mined by the fed... that we know of.

And they've tried to "register" ammunition as well, including a background check to purchase.

Crazy!

44 posted on 03/30/2016 4:04:21 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: grobdriver

It’s illegal for the feds to maintain FFL date for any extended period of time, they’re retained by the dealer, so in theory there are no central records. This and several of the other articles on this incident have been sloppy. I assume you’re close to right, the reporter meant to say they were legally owned


45 posted on 03/30/2016 4:29:02 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: garjog

This many, shopping center or airport. They’ll need some work on their infiltration skills.


46 posted on 03/30/2016 4:30:53 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SJackson

I remember that - thanks for posting link re: Jumaat al Fuqra.


47 posted on 03/30/2016 11:54:35 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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