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How a $2.7 Billion Submarine Was Crippled by Defective Parts
Fiscal Times ^ | 4/3/2016 | Martin Matishak

Posted on 04/03/2016 3:56:20 PM PDT by Incorrigible

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To: pfflier

Correct. Iced up air filters to the main ballest tanks.


41 posted on 04/03/2016 4:56:25 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Thibodeaux

Welder so aren’t perfect. That’s why nuclear welds are inspected, and have more “pictures” taken of them than your first grandchild. The welder blew it sure... But something else was going on that the inspector didn’t flag it. Somebody will go to prison over this.


42 posted on 04/03/2016 4:57:07 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Incorrigible

It was probably made in China. Everything else we get is made there.


43 posted on 04/03/2016 4:57:12 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Read 1 Corinthians 15: verses 1-4. This is the Gospel of Grace, the ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED!!)
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To: Incorrigible

“Look for the union label...” Remember that song?


44 posted on 04/03/2016 5:04:04 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumpers sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Incorrigible

Wow. That Navy Times article mentions the term ‘unauthorized parts’. Somebody(s) in deep yogurt if they let that go through. Spent many years in Supplier Quality and subcontractor oversight, although not in welded parts. Everything that company provided would be suspect at this point. I went to their website, no posting of their actual quality certifications, only that they have them. Now I’m left wondering if the part was welded at the manufacturer facility or somewhere further in the assembly process. I’d like to be a fly on the wall of those failure analysis meetings..


45 posted on 04/03/2016 5:05:48 PM PDT by SueRae (An election like no other..)
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To: Farmer Dean

Exactly.


46 posted on 04/03/2016 5:06:44 PM PDT by SueRae (An election like no other..)
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To: Vermont Lt

Exactly. and doesn’t the NRC have to sign off on the processes or at least be part of the inspection chain?


47 posted on 04/03/2016 5:08:12 PM PDT by SueRae (An election like no other..)
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To: Farmer Dean

During the Cold War, the then state of the art MIG-29(?) was something of a mystery to the US because the planes sent to the USSR’s eastern satellite nations were “monkey models,” inferior to the craft making up Soviet air forces.

Finally, a Soviet pilot defected with his plane. The lack of sophistication in the plane’s manufacturing came as a shock. They bolts that held the metal skin in place still had their heads intact, increasing drag. Grinding off the bolt heads was a no-brainer, but there you go. The rest of the plane was similarly poorly done.

If this was the best they could do, imagine how crappy the monkey models were.


48 posted on 04/03/2016 5:08:22 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Incorrigible

If they were minority hired contractors they will not be charged with anything.


49 posted on 04/03/2016 5:13:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Uss he/she

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50 posted on 04/03/2016 5:15:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

How many Muzzie welders work on Nuke subs?


51 posted on 04/03/2016 5:34:53 PM PDT by batterycommander
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To: Vermont Lt

I trust the weld consumables were processed per Mil/NavSea Specs (i.e. lot definition). Were they stick or flux cored?


52 posted on 04/03/2016 5:44:47 PM PDT by existentially_kuffer
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To: Thibodeaux

This is probably somewhat associated with the government using self certification.


53 posted on 04/03/2016 5:45:33 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: arl295
How does one screw this up?

This was a large budget job, why wasn’t it done right?

In WWII this was called sabotage and there was a very swift and specific remedy for those responsible. Not the first time I miss things from our past, there were a lot of things wrong, but then again there were a heck of alot more things right!

54 posted on 04/03/2016 5:46:31 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Tallguy

yep


55 posted on 04/03/2016 5:54:14 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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To: pfflier

What ultimately doomed the Thresher was lack of propulsion....

If the screw was turning, even at negative buoyancy, she could have driven to the surface.

Subsafe came from the Thresher, but also the Quality Assurance program. Many changes were brought about to improve safety and reliability on boats....the loss of the Thresher was very tragic, but it ultimately saved lives.


56 posted on 04/03/2016 5:59:35 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: sparklite2
They bolts that held the metal skin in place still had their heads intact, increasing drag. Grinding off the bolt heads was a no-brainer, but there you go. The rest of the plane was similarly poorly done.

There was quite a bit written about this MIG and as I recall, this is not totally true. Turns out the rivets actually aided boundary layer flow so more speed, less gas, lower stalling speed. Another thing, the electronics used vacuum tubes, not transistors, which worked fine, were cheaper, and were not susceptible to EMP. So the plane was a lot cheaper than ours yet accomplished the mission. It is the quantity vs. quality argument, same as Russian tanks in WWII.

57 posted on 04/03/2016 6:03:18 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Incorrigible

Any muzzies hired to do welding?


58 posted on 04/03/2016 6:06:19 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: existentially_kuffer

I know elders. I couldn’t weld two paper clips together.


59 posted on 04/03/2016 6:08:40 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Welders, not elders.


60 posted on 04/03/2016 6:10:11 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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