Posted on 04/05/2016 9:04:58 PM PDT by Mifflin
Cruz was also a natural-born Canadian and a natural born Cuban.
So be it
Trump doesn’t need sore losers, when Trump wins with 1237+ (first ballot) and some Cruz supporters want to sit around a cry about, oh well. The Trump Train will pass you sour pusses by.
Now if Cruz wins with 1237+ (first ballot), I will support him. If he steals it, contested convention, good luck, I am done with the party
Many feel the way I do
IF Cruz is only in it to play spoiler, he is in for a very rude awakening
And in Florida i believe the delegates are bound for three votes.
Bullhockey! Cruz is nott and never has been a natural born u.S. citizen. READ the Constitution.
Cruz seems to be winning the suburbs and exurbs. While Trump is winning rural and small towns. It may be more an education thing than a conservative vs liberal thing.
The arrogance of the GOP and their dismissal of the base is a powder keg.
I would not support it but would not be at all surprised if there were violence against the elites.
He won the whole south. Don’t say trump doesn’t do well with conservatives. That’s ridiculous. Winning Utah and worse Wisconsin is not particularly impressive when you lose badly in purple states we need. Wisconsin hasn’t gone red since 1984. Cruz won a liberal state wow.
I don't think fox news has bothered to mention this.
You assume you know who “the base” is. The GOP has had a big tent philosophy for decades and has produced a hybrid party with multiple bases. You may be correct that there is a violent Trump base that is loud and demanding, but I guarantee the party is hearing plenty from other “bases” within the party who will not vote for Trump. They are just as determined as the Trump crowd.
This is why someone must get a majority of delegates not just a plurality. If Trump wins on the first ballot fine. If not the rules change for ballot two and three if someone wins a majority fine. If it goes longer fine. If the delegates change the rules fine. We did a State Convention that went 12 Ballots and 17 hours in 2002. I suggest you bring snacks. It could be a very long night.
I can see a possible scenario where Trump takes on Cruz as his veep. Something like Kennedy and Johnson, Cruz would be used to get not just delegates but the votes of those like many of the name-calling yahoos here always whining about being mistreated.
Cruz would pretty much be regarded by Trump’s people as a potted plant, in that the office has been called “about as worthless as a bucket of warm spit.”
But he would probably be good at it. He could fetch Melania cold drinks and bird-dog her staff.
The nomination is secured by a vote of the delegates. It is a binary condition with respect to each candidate. Either yes, you have at least 1237 votes or no you do not have at least 1237 votes. No Mulligans or gimmies in this. You simply tally the votes in successive ballots until someone is nominated. Having 1234, 1235, or 1236 delegates voting for you in any given ballot, does not make you the nominee, no matter how much you wet the bed over it.
The rules are very transparent, and not knowing the rules, or not working within the process, according to the rules, is not an excuse to go out and blame conspiracies and secret processes.
California will go big for Trump for one hot button reason and one alone - immigration.
Renouncing foreign citizenship(s) is the final step one takes before announcing intentions to run for POTUS. /s
“The Rules of the GOP are posted on line”
Their shenanigans aren’t.
We don’t care about the GOPe and their “rules” anymore, if the majority is disenfranchised by “the rules”, watch the Republican Party go the way of an old wet cigar. The GOPe better realize, they might want to make sure the “new rules” give the nomination to whoever the base voted for. Or watch their cigar get smashed in their face.
I hope these two can overcome themselves and have an honest discussion about what to do in the event of a possible brokered convention.
You believe in the party.
I do not.
Good luck with it.
Not strange at all, Hillary backs Cruz. Hillarybots registered Republican to vote for Cruz, and most of them live in liberal counties.
A vote for Cruz is a vote for Hillary. It's rock simple.
Romney was the conservative-backed candidate against McCain in 2008. Some weird re-alignments do happen in primaries. But it doesn’t change that Romney is fundamentally liberal and Cruz fundamentally conservative.
The establishment has been hell-bent on trying to market the party to minorities for many years. Trump’s campaign is an existential threat to that strategy, which they have been arguing for years is essential to the party’s survival. I believe that’s the main point of conflict against Trump. If Trump hadn’t made the Mexican and Muslim comments, he might have been able to get the establishment reluctantly on his side.
The majority of the party hasn’t voted for any candidate. The electoral college doesn’t give a win without a majority of electors and the convention has always worked the same way. The delegates have to realign and form a majority behind someone at the convention on subsequent ballots if a majority isn’t formed by the first ballot, which is largely defined by state rules binding the delegates to how the state voted. This process basically follows our constitutional electoral college model.
Mark Levin and Amanda Carpenter will be partying it up this week and next. But Trump will win the next 6 primaries. You can take it to the bank!!!!!
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