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Will This Year's Republican Convention Be Like 1880? Remember Who Won and How?
Christian Post ^ | 04/06/2016 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 04/06/2016 2:44:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/06/2016 2:44:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Kate Smith is on sabbatical.


2 posted on 04/06/2016 2:48:18 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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I have a hunch that Trump supporters won’t compromise with the compromise candidate. Trump supporters want the establishment GOP out of power, not Ryan or Rubio, or any other Romney/Bush clone. A so-called compromise candidate keeps the GOPe in power. The only way I can imagine the GOPe can keep the Trump vote, with their “compromise” candidate is if they offer Trump the VP slot, and it is hard to imagine Trump agreeing to it, although I suppose he might hold his nose and do it, rather than let Hillary win.

But fact is, with any candidate but Trump, it is not really a compromise because the establishment wins, and this movement that has coalesced around Trump is about ridding ourselves of the globalists, the crony capitalists, the lobbyists, the corrupt Democrat-lights.


3 posted on 04/06/2016 2:53:28 PM PDT by erkelly
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Much has changed since 1880. One is that the People will not tolerate the party insiders (Stalwarts in 1880, GOPe in 2016) thwarting the voters. If the GOPe thinks it can spring a James A. Garfield on us, it is nuts.


4 posted on 04/06/2016 2:54:00 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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Politics were different back then. There weren't any primaries. Every candidate was chosen by the party machine -- whether it happened in each state or at the convention.

Garfield's rise was similar to Polk's in 1844. It couldn't happen today. Certainly not with Paul Ryan. A presidential candidate has to have some kind of personal appeal or pull. He or she can't simply be somebody pushed by the party machine into the race in the middle of it.

5 posted on 04/06/2016 2:54:39 PM PDT by x
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I have a hard time remembering 1880.

Now, 1814 I remember quite well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSTKE85yXl4


6 posted on 04/06/2016 2:57:12 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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Within five years, Grant would be dead of throat cancer. Essentially penniless, Grant worked furiously at writing his memoirs, a masterpiece whose sales allowed his widow and family to live in comfort. He died days after finishing them.


7 posted on 04/06/2016 2:57:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Blaine was the 1884 nominee, only to lose to Grover Cleveland.


8 posted on 04/06/2016 3:01:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Ironically, the "reformist" candidate Blaine lost to Cleveland in 1884 because of rumors of financial corruption.

Well, that and "Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion." Blaine lost votes because of that unguarded anti-Catholic remark by a supporter.

The irony there -- which I just learned today in wikipedia -- is that Blaine's mother and half his family were Catholic.

9 posted on 04/06/2016 3:03:20 PM PDT by x
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Blaine, Blaine, James E. Blaine; the continental liar from the State of Maine!


10 posted on 04/06/2016 3:03:46 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen and you, O death, are annihilated!)
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The actual battlefield was at Chalmette, just down river from New Orleans.


11 posted on 04/06/2016 3:09:45 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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Yeah, I’m sure you are correct.

I can see why he used NO, though. Helped make the song a hit.


12 posted on 04/06/2016 3:13:01 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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1880’s Convention, if anything, resulted in a better choice for the GOP. Grant was a disaster as President, incompetent and with rampant corruption on his watch. Blaine was similarly regarded as corrupt, and he was the first Republican nominee (in 1884) to lose for President since John Fremont in 1856, which was the reason for his loss to Bourbon Conservative Democrat Cleveland.

Garfield was one of the more accomplished members of the House (and was Senator-elect). It’s unfortunately he didn’t get to complete two full terms as President, as he could’ve been one of our better Presidents.


13 posted on 04/06/2016 3:15:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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There is a big difference in 1880 and now. I doubt more than a very few people were aware of what happened until much later, now the people are instantly aware.


14 posted on 04/06/2016 3:18:09 PM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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The book Destiny of the Republic discusses this in detail. After reading it, you realize that Garfield’s assassination was a true tragedy for the nation. He was a man about which there was much to admire.


15 posted on 04/06/2016 3:30:30 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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Under Rule 40, it must be a current candidate. And I suppose this would include those who may have “suspended” their campaign but remain candidates. If they change Rule 40 before the convention, then watch out.


16 posted on 04/06/2016 3:35:15 PM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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Well, here's even more irony. He was the author of the Blaine Amendment, which was designed to block tax dollars from funding Catholic schools. It failed in Congress but many states adopted it.

It didn't bother so-called liberals here in Colorado to use a constitutional provision born in religious bigotry to block one school district's voucher plan because, horror of horrors, some parents might use their voucher in a parochial school.

17 posted on 04/06/2016 3:38:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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The only way this scenario could conceivably work would be to find a candidate that was simultaneously acceptable to all factions. Garfield, improbably fit the bill, respected and acceptable to all. A compromise in the best sense of the word.

Ryan is tied to the Establishment, and is Romney’s former running mate. He is closer to Blaine than Garfield. (Full disclosure, I went to college with Ryan, didn’t know him, but our Venn diagrams overlapped considerably)

As a thought exercise, can anyone think of a different Republican that Trump, Cruz, and establishment types could all actually rally around? I can’t.


18 posted on 04/06/2016 3:39:41 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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Only the locals call it the Chalmette Battlefield.


19 posted on 04/06/2016 3:41:20 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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RE: As a thought exercise, can anyone think of a different Republican that Trump, Cruz, and establishment types could all actually rally around?

Jeff Sessions? Respected and always referred to by both Trump and Cruz. And he’s still younger than Bernie Sanders.


20 posted on 04/06/2016 3:42:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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