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Dennis Hastert Molested at Least Four Boys, Prosecutors Say
NY Times ^ | APRIL 8, 2016 | MONICA DAVEY and MITCH SMITH

Posted on 04/08/2016 8:12:20 PM PDT by TroutStalker

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To: dragnet2

Well, dragnet2, that is pretty much the way things work whether you are a ditch digger, a small business entrepreneur, a policeman, a politician, a judge or just a plain old husband or wife, father or mother. All are subject to the consequences of their actions, and all those under their authority can and often do suffer from those consequences. The greater the authority the greater the need to act responsibly, which is a lesson that seemingly needs to be relearned by far too many today, not least of which is all those running for the presidency.

So, what exactly your beef is I don’t understand.


101 posted on 04/09/2016 7:55:02 AM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: SisterK

Well then, Mr. Hastert is, in a certain sense, lucky. Now all he will have to live with is his conscience. But that might be the hardest punishment of all.


102 posted on 04/09/2016 7:57:39 AM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I’m surprised anyone still thinks there’s a difference between the two parties. Kabuki theater to keep us playing their game.


103 posted on 04/09/2016 8:05:32 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Belteshazzar; Sawdring
No, he was not just responsible for his actions. He was in a position where he knowingly was or could have been compromised by blackmail, etc. His actions had the potential of affecting millions.

Was that part of those conservative principles you’re talking about?

Well, dragnet2, that is pretty much the way things work whether you are a ditch digger, a small business entrepreneur, a policeman, a politician, a judge or just a plain old husband or wife, father or mother.

Really? Ya think anyone buys your bull sh*t?

Unlike ditch diggers, do those in the Senate and Congress not take an oath? Did you ever read it?

104 posted on 04/09/2016 8:59:36 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Belteshazzar
First, whatever Hastert did or did not do has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with conservative principles.

This is the biggest load of BS I've seen on this forum in the past 24 hours. Congratulations.

105 posted on 04/09/2016 9:02:52 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Oratam

Really? Your insulting remarks are taken but rejected. Bo’s executed the largest welfare increase in 50 years by stealing out healthcare industry and not a single republican voted for this crime. Not one. So tell me your story about no difference. Do you honestly think that a 74 year old commie rat is the same as Ted Cruz?


106 posted on 04/09/2016 9:19:22 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: dragnet2

What an intemperate fool you are. If you read what I wrote instead of just going off you would see that we are not really in disagreement.

As far as oaths go, I might know a little more about such things than you think, even though, obviously, you know so very much more than most.

Or do you think that only certain people should be held responsible for their actions and others not? Only oath takers? Yourself excepted, perhaps?

Those with small authority can only hurt a few others. Those with great authority, like Hastert, can, as you say, hurt millions. No argument. I said essentially that. Our biggest problem today is not the Denny Hasterts of this country, but the millions and millions of irresponsible people, from ditch diggers to presidents, who don’t care about those whose lives can be hurt because of their misdeeds. We have bred a culture of irresponsibility.

EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEM ... EVERYONE!


107 posted on 04/09/2016 9:22:43 AM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Yea, they are the same. Just recent history...

TARP
Auto Bailouts
National Debt
Budget
Medicare Part D
No child left behind
Amnesty push
Amnesty-Reagan-
Patriot Act

Just a few...and people still want to be a Republican? Just voting to stop democrats hasn't fixed anything.

108 posted on 04/09/2016 9:32:42 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Nah, Hussein has that title. He’s married to a tranny.


109 posted on 04/09/2016 9:58:53 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Belteshazzar
First, whatever Hastert did or did not do has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with conservative principles.

If these charges are in fact true, Mr. Conservative Haster was not only compromising his position, the potential for compromising and undermining American and millions of Americas was very real.

In fact, we don't even know he this guy was blackmailed or if the country was compromised.

Great conservative values ya got there.

Get real.

110 posted on 04/09/2016 10:08:54 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TroutStalker

Well, he could always get a job as the poster boy for NAMBLA, you know, the LGBT homosexual group that supports his kind of activity and seeks to decriminalize it.


111 posted on 04/09/2016 10:14:28 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: Belteshazzar
First, whatever Hastert did or did not do has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with conservative principles. If these charges are in fact true, Mr. Conservative Haster was not only compromising his position, the potential for compromising and undermining America and millions of Americas was very real. In fact, we don't even know he this guy was blackmailed or if the country was compromised.

Great conservative values ya got there.

What an intemperate fool you are.

And what a full blown con-job you're serving up. Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.

112 posted on 04/09/2016 10:19:54 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Take a course in remedial English, both reading and writing.

Bye.


113 posted on 04/09/2016 10:21:00 AM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Belteshazzar
First, whatever Hastert did or did not do has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with conservative principles.

Tell ya what I'll so slick, every time you respond with your BS con-job comments, I'll just repeat your own words.

If these charges are in fact true, Mr. Conservative Haster was not only compromising his position, the potential for compromising and undermining America and millions of Americas was very real. In fact, we don't even know he this guy was blackmailed or if the country was compromised. Great conservative values ya got there.

What an intemperate fool you are.

And what a full blown con-job you're serving up. Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.

Take a course in remedial English, both reading and writing.

Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit. And you defined this el perfecto.

114 posted on 04/09/2016 10:25:49 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Theoria

So, your excuse to vote for Bernie or Hillary. And I suppose you support the Muslim faggot in they WH too?


115 posted on 04/09/2016 10:50:52 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Vic S

[ Nick Bryant spent 7 yrs researching that because what he found was so disturbing. He heard HW Bush liked young black boys. That’s what I read. He also implicated many people in congress and higher ups in the cia leadership. I guess if you wanted to be in a high position in govt you need to prove your loyalty by exposing yourself to blackmail. Even the Rothschild, Hanvoers and Windsors visited Epstein’s pedophile island.

It’s a strange world... ]

A small tactical nuke a few hundred feet over bohemian grove during their annual “cremation of care” ceremony would go a long ways to cleaning out the rats nest in DC.


116 posted on 04/09/2016 11:07:14 AM PDT by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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To: Belteshazzar

I agree.


117 posted on 04/09/2016 11:16:35 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: GraceG
What I find alarming is the first time in many decades an outsider, someone who speaks out against decades of non-conservative, lying loser leadership, and suddenly all the insiders and Republicans are feigning outrage. All alleging Trump is not conservative enough.

Where have all these conservatives been for 27 years?

Where is all that conservatism we're now suddenly hearing about? Are decades of decline and deceit now considered the foundation of conservative values? This is election year fraud at it's best.

118 posted on 04/09/2016 11:17:53 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Border Terrier
Ah, the GOP establishment personified.

How so? A high school wrestling coach from the middle of Illinois? That's a long way from the Rockefellers and Whitneys.

119 posted on 04/09/2016 11:18:40 AM PDT by x
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To: TroutStalker
When I heard that a high school wrestling coach was going to be Speaker of the House, I had an inkling that something like this was possible -- one of the few times I may have got something right in political predictions.

But when I say this headline, I thought "WTF? President Dave Palmer? The Allstate guy? What the heck is going on?"

120 posted on 04/09/2016 11:23:10 AM PDT by x
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