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The Democratic Convention of 1924: Lessons from the Ultimate Contested Convention
National Review ^ | 04/09/2016 | By Garland S. Tucker III

Posted on 04/09/2016 5:31:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/09/2016 5:31:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s a lot of sophistry to basically say there is all kinds of precedent for taking down the leading candidate, and that the goal of the GOP is to try to impose their globalist will, rather than ever hold their noses for just once.


2 posted on 04/09/2016 5:36:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m confused. If a nominee doesn’t have the total number required, ballots are then cast at the convention. Does that make it a contested convention? If so, America has been blessed with quite a few very good Presidents through contested conventions. Jefferson, Polk and Coolidge come to mind.


3 posted on 04/09/2016 5:37:37 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: SeekAndFind

And as for me I couldn’t care less if the Republican Party survives or not, in fact, I kind of hope it doesn’t.

I despise Democrats, but I cannot think of much about Republicans I support, nothing I admire, and trust completely gone.


4 posted on 04/09/2016 5:39:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: SeekAndFind

My mother was born on the 78th ballot.

My Grandfather was something of an early adopter, he had a radio. Neighbors and friends came over to follow the news. Grandma did the cooking and feeding. After the 77th ballot, she excused herself, went upstairs, and gave birth to my mother.

They don’t make ‘em like that anymore.


5 posted on 04/09/2016 5:39:47 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown, are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: gorush

And I’m also confused. All these primaries and votes. What are they for again? It appears the GOP regards it as theater. It would be the sacred voice of the people if it was for Jeb or Marco. Otherwise it is nothing they listen to apparently.


6 posted on 04/09/2016 5:43:18 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: SeekAndFind; Impy; BlackElk; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

1924 was the last time the Democrats nominated a Conservative for President (former Wilson Solicitor General and ex-WV Congressman John W. Davis). The last gasp of sanity.


7 posted on 04/09/2016 5:43:54 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: DesertRhino
rather than ever hold their noses for just once

It's not a matter of "just once".

Since 1945, both parties have joined with governments overseas to create a new world. What we call "globalism" has made great strides due to this relatively hidden goal of both parties.

They are close, very close, to irreversible change. "Think of it always, speak of it never".

But nationalism, the mortal enemy of globalism, is rising. In America, it has found a spokesman.

The GOP, like the Democrats, will NEVER consent to a reversal of the victory to which they feel entitled.

8 posted on 04/09/2016 5:43:59 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown, are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t forget this was not an era when primary elections were expected to wield the power to choose a candidate. This was the era of backroom deals, the smoke-filled room, and the party putting their candidate up. Floor fights at conventions occurred when people directly took on the party. The floor fight was not a vehicle for the party to take on the electorate


9 posted on 04/09/2016 5:46:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

JFK would be the most conservative of today’s GOP slate.


10 posted on 04/09/2016 5:48:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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The hell he would. He was gonna do all that great society crap Johnson did, only he died before he could.

If the bastard was still alive today he’d be just like the rest of his odious family, far left.


11 posted on 04/09/2016 5:50:31 PM PDT by Impy (Did you know "Hillary" spelled backwards is "Bitch"?)
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To: Jim Noble

You have precisely explained the problem. Trump is an existential threat to them. That is why all the freaking out and throwing their poo at him like a pack or panicked monkeys.
And far too many people call the GOP wing of the globalist cabal “conservative”. It let’s them call Bush, or Cruz, or Cheney, or Ryan, conservative.


12 posted on 04/09/2016 5:54:04 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting read but it doesn’t dim my determination to vote the way my principles lead me to vote.


13 posted on 04/09/2016 5:54:26 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("You know who gets hurt? The people who worked hard, lived frugally, and saved their money."- Trump)
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To: Impy

I don’t fall for that crap. Every Republican today is to the left of JFK.


14 posted on 04/09/2016 5:55:32 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for the interesting article. I always look to find out about the author when articles from formerly sane periodicals are posted. Once I saw that he was a businessman rather than strategist or a think tanker, I gave his stuff a read. Smart guy, good piece, decent advice.


15 posted on 04/09/2016 5:59:57 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; InterceptPoint

The dems had that pesky 2/3s requirement for a long time.

It cost Martin Van Buren the nomination in 1844, probably a good thing for them cause I think he’d have lost to Clay, and it cost Champ Clark the nomination (and Presidency) in 1912. Both got a majority but couldn’t get to 2/3s. I wonder if Clark would have been as awful as Wilson.

In ‘24 though, McAdoo, the KKK candidate, topped out at 48% I think, not even a majority. Though if the threshold wasn’t 2/3s maybe he’d have gotten it, being so close to 50%. 103 ballots, unbelievable. I think they were just desperate for it to be over. They gave the VP nod to WJ Byran’s brother, Jeb, I mean Charles.

Many libs in both parties backed LaFollette in the general election. He got most of the dem vote in the west.


16 posted on 04/09/2016 6:07:30 PM PDT by Impy (Did you know "Hillary" spelled backwards is "Bitch"?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Garland Tucker III’s article may be a nice history lesson, but it leaves out this fact:

Never in the history of the GOP has a candidate arrived at the convention with 95% of the needed delegates, as Mr Trump certainly will (at a minimum) and been denied the nomination. In fact, I haven’t been able to find a case where a candidate had 90% and was denied. (This would be 1148). If there’s one out there, I haven’t seen it.


17 posted on 04/09/2016 6:09:06 PM PDT by The Continental Op
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To: DesertRhino

I laugh at that notion, honestly. The jerk would be in his wheelchair, 99 years old, with Jimmy Carter campaigning for queer rights. The only question is if he’d be shilling for Bernie or Hillary.


18 posted on 04/09/2016 6:12:51 PM PDT by Impy (Did you know "Hillary" spelled backwards is "Bitch"?)
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To: The Continental Op

RE: Never in the history of the GOP has a candidate arrived at the convention with 95% of the needed delegates, as Mr Trump certainly will (at a minimum) and been denied the nomination.

If Trump gets that many, then he will win in the second ballot.


19 posted on 04/09/2016 6:15:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Al Smith would be considered an arch conservative today.


20 posted on 04/09/2016 6:16:25 PM PDT by Argus
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