I don’t like Cruz nor would vote for him but isn’t this settled law?
Mother was American and he was born overseas (I know, Canada) is still a natural citizen as defined by Federal law and upheld by lower courts....
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My take from the article was it is not a question of whether or not he is a natural born citizen; it is a question of whether or not he committed fraud in answering the question untruthfully or not. That is a pretty big distinction.
Personally, I'd like to see the original papers that affirm that Cruz is a US citizen, and their date. We know he wasn't born here.
No it is not settled
Unlike obama and his possible Indonesian problem, cruz apparently did take steps to drop his canadian citizenship
Which a natural born American should never have to do
Also there are “questions ‘ about his mother’s birth that a true dedicated investigation should pursue
But as we saw with obama, can be suppressed by tptb
I don’t quite understand this but it pertains to his still holding Canadian citizenship when he signed up for Jersey primary or some such thing.
Not sure it’s the same natural born argument.
The whole Canadian citizenship deal is a non-issue. The US doesn’t recognize dual citizenship as a status. Under the laws in effect at the time of his birth, Cruz was a citizen of the United States. There was no naturalization process to go through to become a US citizen.
Apparently you missed the lengthy NBC discussions here a few months ago. You are a citizen but not a NBC.
But what did Mother put on the birth certificate regarding citizenship? If she put Canadian, bhoom bhoom! Out go the lights lol.
Mother was American and he was born overseas (I know, Canada) is still a natural citizen as defined by Federal law and upheld by lower courts....
Mother was American. And then she was Canadian - in order to vote there and open a business - like other Canadians.
And Sinator sCruz may not even be a citizen of ANYWHERE !
[We really would like him to release his papers so we could actually see the truth.]
NO. it is NOT “settled law” that he is eligible. In FACT numerous Supreme Court Decisions regarding Natural Born Citizen ALL show that he is NOT ELIGIBLE.
Absolutely NOT, and Ted Cruz knows it.
A natural born citizen is one who is born in the country (jus soli), AND born to parents who are both US citizens (jus sanguinis).
Well Cruz has sealed his records. For all intents and purposed he does not as far as anybody can determine an American birth certificate. He has a passport which he holds up as his citizenship proof. I would say its shaky at best.
I don’t know if he will be kept off the state ballots but I can assure you if Cruz is put on the GOP ticket top or bottom of the ticket the DNC will challenge him and they can and will keep him off the ballot unless he can prove his documents are in order.
This stuff all came up in 2008 and the only reason the DNC didn’t keep McStain off the ballot is because they were wanting to run an ineligible candidate of their own. They all finally shook hands and said eff it and let both run.
Citizenship by statute (Federal Law) is not Natural Born Citizenship.
There is reason to suspect that Cruz’s mother became an official Canadian before her son was born - a neighbor claims to have known this. It had to do with benefits and can be verified if anyone would check.
But in addition, even Obama went to the troule to claim he was born in the US. Now it isn’t even an issue????
Your question is honest and deserves a clear answer.
The founding father’s were very leery of anyone foreign born being President or Vice president. That has nothing to do with “Citizenship”. Discussions In the lexicon of the time , the opposite os “ foreign born” was “Natural Born” . The term was well used in that context. It did not mean “natural non cesarean birth” . It meant that as to the highest office ,i.e. the Presidency one could absolutely not be born outside the soil of our beloved country. This intent was to heighten our sovereignty for our highest office .
Please do not confuse “citizenship” with “Natural Born”. They are apples and oranges.
As stated by many here repeatedly, it is an absolute fact that Crus wac NOT born on our soil as required in Article II and Section 1 of the United States Constitution. He is not eligible to hold the office.
Let me demonstrate how it becomes crystal clear in the wording of the Constitution iself.
“Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution states: “No Person except a natural born Citizen ... shall be eligible to the Office of President.” The original structure of the Constitution does suggest that “natural born” was meant to contain a geographic component of birth in the United States. The “Inhabitant” requirements for senators and representatives in Article I of the Constitution clearly were intended to be geographic. Since the qualifications stated for president contain no other obvious parallel geographic reference, it would seem the framers meant the “natural born” citizenship requirement for president to refer to those born geographically in the United States.” Taken from www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-01-27/ted-cruz-is-not-a-nwatural-born-citizen-according-to-the-constitution
Now notice that if the founding fathers intended that a “citizen” was all that was required, the “geographic qualifier” would not have been used. In other words , it would have merely states “Citizen”. It did not merely state “citizen” There was an important geographic qualifier to absolutely preclude eligibility for a foreign born citizen.
I hope this clears up the issue for you so you will no longer be confused. This issue must go to Scotus but that will take years. The Democrats will enjoin any candidacy of foreign born Republican with absolutely certainty.
No it isn’t settled. Look up the 1970 SCOTUS decision of Rogers vs Bellei. Bellei’s birth circumstances are an EXACT proxy for Ted Cruz, and he was stripped of his US citizenship for failing to comply with certain aspects of the citizenship statute that he was naturalized under. No natural born citizen could be shorn of his citizenship in that manner.
Ted Cruz is a US citizen by statute IF his mother filed a Counsular Report of Birth Abroad in accordance with the Immigration Act of 1952 in a timely manner, and that documentation has not been produced to date.
He too, like Obama may be an illegal alien.
He was a dual citizen until just recently.. Divided loyalties.
Trump’s mother is not an American.
“I don’t like Cruz nor would vote for him but isn’t this settled law?
Mother was American and he was born overseas (I know, Canada) is still a natural citizen as defined by Federal law and upheld by lower courts...”
Nope not from what I heard (and now a days you never know what is and is not true) but I read his mom renounced her citizenship so if that is true, Rafael is not a citizen. They say his records and his moms are sealed..........so just like Obama we most likely will never know the truth....