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The Rule: First Candidate to 1,237 Wins
Townhall.com ^ | April 12, 2016 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 04/12/2016 5:20:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

I have been concerned for some time that forces supporting Donald Trump have intentionally been laying the groundwork for claiming that Trump will have been cheated if he doesn't earn the GOP nomination.

When this primary season began, few people gave Ted Cruz a snowball's chance to be in serious contention, but he has repeatedly demonstrated just how much people underestimated him.

He not only is the most informed and consistent on policy but also has assembled a grass-roots organization whose sophistication makes Obama's then-cutting-edge 2008 campaign look like 1990.

Cruz has been ganged up on from the beginning but has outlasted the vicious charges and is now on an upward arc. He is the only candidate who has survived the damning mini-labels of Trump that helped undo Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others.

But Trump is no dummy, either. By relentlessly bellowing "Lyin' Ted," he planted seeds for defamatory remarks against Cruz in case the tide of the campaign would tilt in his favor, as it appears to have done.

Cruz is systematically fulfilling the prophecy he made that he would begin to defeat Trump as the field narrowed, when people would focus more on the contrast between him and Trump. Since Rubio dropped out, Cruz has won far more delegates than Trump, whose negatives are through the roof, especially with women.

Cruz is also mopping up delegates in caucuses and primaries in the various states because he is more prepared, more organized and more committed -- and because he is humble enough to know he has to attend to details in every aspect of this campaign. And the delegates who Trump claims are being stolen are choosing Cruz because they see him as the more presidential and reliable of the two.

Yet Trump-favoring media and commentators, as if on cue, spread the canard that Cruz is strong-arming delegates and "stealing" them. That some are receptive to this is a testament to the effectiveness of all the previous slanders against Lion Ted Cruz.

Many Trump supporters seem to think they have an exclusive claim to angst against the ruling class. They alone are "we the people." They alone are entitled to their nominee, especially because he has a lead in the delegate count.

I've had many suggest that at such time as it becomes mathematically impossible for Cruz to win a majority of delegates going into the convention, he should withdraw -- "because he can't win." Moreover, the people have spoken, they say, and they support Trump, so everyone must get out of the way -- rules be damned.

I assume that many of these Trump supporters are green about the process and are just overly eager for their guy, but others know better. For the incontrovertible fact is that the rules for a century and a half have provided that a candidate must get a majority of delegates to win.

That threshold happens to be 1,237 delegates. No one has ever credibly suggested that a candidate with a plurality of delegates must be anointed as the nominee. Those now arguing this are the ones wanting to suspend the rules, not those who support the time-honored rule. If this thinking had prevailed in 1860, Abraham Lincoln would not have been nominated that year. He was a distant second to William Seward on the first ballot and prevailed on the third ballot.

The delegates of most states are pledged to a certain candidate for the first ballot -- and some through the second ballot -- but afterward they are released to vote for whomever they choose on subsequent ballots.

Unhappily for the Trump camp, Trump is, according to renowned statistician Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight, the weakest GOP front-runner in modern history. Also, even people who have voted for him in earlier states may very well have buyer's remorse at this point.

But Team Trump, sticking to its message that Trump is inevitable, has adopted another clever tactic in trying to establish a fallback narrative in case he fails to reach 1,237 before Cleveland. The Trump folks spawned the conspiracy theory that Cruz is colluding with the establishment in the states to deny Trump the nomination. This dovetails with their consistent theme that Trump is the only outsider in the race.

But in fact, the party hasn't united around Cruz. Most establishment people probably prefer Cruz over Trump, but it's not because he is any less anti-establishment or less of a threat to business as usual in Washington. It's because they fear that Trump is volatile, unpresidential and authoritarian and know that Cruz is the only one who can beat him.

Over the weekend, Cruz continued to outwork, outmaneuver and outshine Trump, especially in Colorado, where Cruz won all 34 delegates. Immediately, the Trump forces cried that they were cheated out of the process. The implication is that "Lyin' Ted" broke the rules and "stole" the delegates. But there was no cheating. As FiveThirtyEight also reported, Trump "slipped up in Colorado. ... Instead of putting together a top-notch convention team, Trump's campaign was a mess." Ari Armstrong, a Colorado Republican who participated in the caucuses, wrote, "The simple fact is that the Republicans in my precinct caucus mostly disfavored Trump, and evidently that is true of most other precincts as well." And though Trump blasted the GOP's delegate rules Sunday and said a "corrupt" system is robbing him of delegates, NBC analysts say Trump has benefited more than Cruz "under the party's arcane rules for allocating delegates," having been awarded 45 percent of the delegates despite having won just 37 percent of all the votes.

Trump is not entitled to the nomination unless and until he reaches the magic number, and neither is Cruz. It is sad that some who are claiming their votes don't count are the same ones who are saying Cruz votes shouldn't count -- that Trump should be anointed now or when it becomes mathematically impossible for Cruz to win on the first ballot.

Team Cruz is not suggesting we twist the rules but insisting we adhere to them. Let's all agree to honor and play by the rules and recognize the winner of a majority of delegates when that moment occurs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; delegates; donaldtrump; tedcruz
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To: Kaslin

Well lets try and remember that David Limbaugh and Rush Limbaugh are both establishment conservatives.

Next lets realize that the campaign Ted Cruz is running is that of a weak candidate who a majority of republican voters reject. On April 26th Cruz hits the mathematical wall and he well knows it. His is a campaign of desperation fueled by naked ambition. There is no dirty trick he will not stoop to in an effort to obtain the GOP nomination no matter the futility of it.

In the coming weeks Donald Trump is going to sweep the NE state primaries including PA and maybe even Indiana. He is and will continue to be the presumptive nominee. Ted Cruz will be pressured to drop out soon and he knows it. He just isn’t going to accept it well.


61 posted on 04/12/2016 7:43:16 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: dead
the most monsterous explosion of cry baby whinging and tantruming from Team Trump

It would make the Sarah's-not-running meltdown of 2012 look like a stick of cold butter, slowly softening on the kitchen counter.....in January.

62 posted on 04/12/2016 7:44:00 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon ("I play to people's fantasies." - Donald J. Trump)
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To: ripnbang

... “Trump favoring media”? What’s he smoking?

The short list: Rush, Hannity, BOR, Greta, Eric Bolling, Laura Ingraham, Trumpbart, drudge, gateway pundit, and the blog run by sundance, and other blogs so inconsequential I don’t remember their names - marshall report. Off the top of my head.


63 posted on 04/12/2016 7:45:35 AM PDT by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: Diogenesis

“Not counting votes is criminal”

No....demanding the rules be changed for everybody because one Disorganized Rich-Kid Narcissistic Crybaby is Criminal!


64 posted on 04/12/2016 7:50:14 AM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: Diogenesis

... Not counting the Peoples’ votes is criminal.

And the statue number? David is pretty clear if you bother to read. The state parties make the rules, the rules are know before the process starts, and the rules are not changed because someone does not like them after the fact.


65 posted on 04/12/2016 7:50:19 AM PDT by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

“How are the bruises, Michelle? “

*snicker*


66 posted on 04/12/2016 7:51:41 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Kaslin

If I’m clueless then the Cruz supporters are brain dead.

You need to change your name to, nah, it’s none of my business what your name is. None of yours what my name is.


67 posted on 04/12/2016 8:00:39 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Never held a job in the private sector;never met a payroll,never created a job - CRUZ! Conservative!)
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To: Kaslin

Limbaugh is a Cruz stooge, and he’s not too bright either.


68 posted on 04/12/2016 8:01:56 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: HarborSentry

We will have to start looking for alternatives to the ballot box.

Can you think of any?


69 posted on 04/12/2016 8:02:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
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To: 1Old Pro

No Limbaugh likes his show and income.

Can you say fairness doctrine maybe?


70 posted on 04/12/2016 8:05:12 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: IrishBrigade
it should never have meant anything...when sporting events are held, do we insist that one team need win the contest by a certain amount of points, or do we take even the smallest advantage, and determine the winner...in fact, do we do this in any competition other than corrupt political battles...?

We Americans prefer to hand leadership to someone acceptable to a majority of our fellow citizens.

I don't look forward to being ruled by a 22% faction in a 5 guy race. According to your "rules."

Consent of the governed is a big deal. Without it, there is no hope for legitimacy. That is why many states have runoff elections when there is no 50%+1 majority winner. You want legitimacy and in a democratic republic, that is by majority rule.

71 posted on 04/12/2016 8:33:19 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Next lets realize that the campaign Ted Cruz is running is that of a weak candidate who a majority of republican voters reject. On April 26th Cruz hits the mathematical wall and he well knows it. His is a campaign of desperation fueled by naked ambition. There is no dirty trick he will not stoop to in an effort to obtain the GOP nomination no matter the futility of it.”

Cruz crossed the line and couldn’t hide his unprincipled ambition when he joined the crowd and blamed Donald Trump’s rhetoric for the violence in Chicago. He had an opportunity to stand on principle but he chose to kick Trump in the shims instead. No principled conservative would parrot the Left’s mantra against a Republican.


72 posted on 04/12/2016 8:37:19 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: ThirstyMan

This is true. Ted Cruz is a member of that most odious club, the career hack politician. He has quickly jumped from consummate outsider to cloaking himself in the entire staff of Jeb Bush and his ex criminal brother Neil. At this point Cruz does not even try to hide his duplicitous nature or the dirty desperate operation he is running to stay in contention. It will be over soon.


73 posted on 04/12/2016 8:46:27 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Cruz’s true colors were also revealed when he began campaigning as the only alternative to Donald Trump. That showed he was courting the establishment vote as opposed to the outsider Ted.

There’s only one candidate who has remained true to his original tack and ‘Make America Great Again’ is his campaign slogan. He has risen in the face of tremendous opposition from all the right people. The Republican voter has indicated repeatedly their preference for this man while the establishment types have sought to deny him the nomination at all costs.

Go Donald!!!


74 posted on 04/12/2016 9:10:05 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: ThirstyMan

All true.


75 posted on 04/12/2016 9:51:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: dead
If Trump does not garner the magic 1237, then he is toast. There is no way he can win on a subsequent ballot, and he only has himself to blame. Cruz has been studying the system and laying down the groundwork for a year now, while Trump has been playing 'celebrity'.

Cruz has been fighting for delegates who are truly loyal to him while Trump has been AWOL, leaving his delegate selections to the local GOPe. I would be shocked if Trump cleared 600 votes on a second ballot.

76 posted on 04/12/2016 9:56:10 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Jack Hammer

You are just as clueless as Trump when it comes to delegate selection.


77 posted on 04/12/2016 9:57:38 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: VerySadAmerican
I’ll sit it out with you. Or vote democrat.

Spoken like a true Trump supporter. You can take the man out of the Party, but you can't take the Party out of the man.

78 posted on 04/12/2016 9:59:51 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Liz
Amazing what a flight in Trump’s plane and a night at Mar a Lago might do for a delegate's attitude.

So Trump is into bribery. Makes sense.

79 posted on 04/12/2016 10:01:49 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: libbylu

So you named a few celebrities one mostly one network. How about the rest of the celebs on that network, the rest of media, including “conservative think tanks and journals that dedicate entire issues of why not to vote for him, let alone liberal media like NY Times and the major networks.


80 posted on 04/12/2016 10:16:46 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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