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Ted Cruz sweeps Wyoming Republican Convention
CNN ^ | 4/16/16 | Dan Berman

Posted on 04/16/2016 3:22:24 PM PDT by Iowa David

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To: eartick; GilGil; RoosterRedux

Trump Supporters Walk Out of Georgia Delegate Fight After Party Picks Cruz Supporter...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3421714/posts

Donald Trump supporters walked out of a delegate election in Georgia Saturday to protest a vote that robbed Trump of all of his slated delegates from a district that he won in the primary.

A Cruz-Rubio alliance at the district convention in Buford, Georgia helped to knock Trump supporters out of the district’s national delegation altogether. Cruz supporters implied that Trump’s people would “embarrass” the district at the convention in Cleveland. Then things got heated.

“This morning, I attended Georgia 7th Congressional District GOP convention as a delegate and a Donald Trump supporter. We were there to elect the 3 delegates and 3 alternates to the national convention,” Ronnie Kurtz told Breitbart News. “Per the primary results, two slots were for Trump, and one was for Rubio. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97% Cruz finished third in the primary and had no delegates allotted to him…Nonetheless, the hall was stacked with Cruz delegates.”

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361 posted on 04/17/2016 2:48:12 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: JediJones

HOW TO BRIBE DELEGATES ... LEGALLY !!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3420371/posts

Washington Post ... 4/11/16

‘Under regulations established in the 1980s, delegates cannot take money from corporations, labor unions, federal contractors or foreign nationals. But an individual donor is permitted to give a delegate unlimited sums to support his or her efforts to get selected to go to the convention, including money to defray the costs of travel and lodging...’

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362 posted on 04/17/2016 2:52:57 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Rufus Shinra

Adding this to the DEFINITIVE thread on the Cruz delegate hunt ...

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Smoking Gun — Colorado was rigged.

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Colorado Caucus Volunteers: Ballot Errors Hurt Trump Delegate Candidates

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3421308/posts?page=56#56

[In other words, it was just as rigged as Trump delegates claimed. Several links added starting at post 56 to help connect the dots.]


363 posted on 04/17/2016 2:55:24 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
If I understand this correctly, in Georgia, the delegates won by Trump in the primary are still bound to him on the first ballot at Cleveland. The GOPee is trying to select delegates that will vote anti-Trump on the second ballot.

Trump and Manafort believe the nomination will be decided on the first ballot (actually on June 7th).

What Cruz is relying on is the Jeb "Win by Losing" plan of losing the primaries/caucuses but winning the nomination by having the GOPe stack the delegate deck for vote after the first ballot.

It isn't that Cruz has a good ground game. It's that the GOPee has planned this "Win by Losing" strategy from the get-go. Cruz is merely their last ditch candidate.

364 posted on 04/17/2016 3:31:20 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: eartick
He didn't lose any bound delegates. The Georgia GOPee is stacking the deck for second ballot votes.

They would have done this for Jeb...and now, with Jeb having pulled out, they are putting their power behind Cruz.

If Trump reaches 1237...they lose.

365 posted on 04/17/2016 3:34:51 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: RoosterRedux
If Trump reaches 1237...they lose.

Do not believe this is going to happen my FRiend. If it does, Trump deserves the nomination

366 posted on 04/17/2016 5:17:19 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Jeff Head

The largest popular vote for any single candidate so far was in Texas where Cruz got 1,240,000 votes at 44%.

He won in Wisconsin with over 530,000 votes. In Oklahoma, Idaho, and UT, where they held regular primaries he won in each with over 100,000 vote in each.


Texas is his home state. 43% is a historically low number for a favorite son. Trump received a larger percent of the vote in FL tahn Cruz did in his home state! Romney of course influenced the Utah primary. Etc., etc.

The fact is Cruz has only won 2 of the 20 biggest electoral vote prizes. He simply isn’t competitive to Trump who will have won 13 of those states after 4/26.


367 posted on 04/17/2016 5:36:12 AM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: Spunky
Trump supporters aren't crying. Wa are laughing our assess off at this utter fraud and incompetence. Just another Wile E Cruz's schemes to blow himself up before the voters.

GOPe is stripped naked and we see the pathetic apparatus underneath. It's funnier than hell. And you Cruzoids are bitter clingers defending the decision of the central committee of the Grand Old Communist Party of the US.

368 posted on 04/17/2016 5:42:19 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Roses0508
Any person registered to vote Republican as of the call for precinct caucuses in a given precinct may vote in that precinct’s caucus.

I don't care how you spin it, a state where less than a thousand people get to vote, has not conducted a free and fair election.

369 posted on 04/17/2016 5:42:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: altura
Trump is lazy.

Wow. What planet did you just land from. The guy has 10 times more energy than anyone else in the race.

370 posted on 04/17/2016 5:47:16 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: RoosterRedux
-- It isn't that Cruz has a good ground game. It's that the GOPee has planned this "Win by Losing" strategy from the get-go. Cruz is merely their last ditch candidate. --

By that logic, and I agree with it, it isn't fair to either credit Cruz with a great ground game or to blame him for rigging the ground game. He's the beneficiary of a larger game.

371 posted on 04/17/2016 5:54:21 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: JediJones
Cruz has no problem with voters in all those reliably red states in the west. Voters do vote on these delegates. Every registered Republican can participate in the conventions.

And yet, in a state with 140,357 registered Republicans, less than a thousand showed up to vote, a turnout of a fraction of a percent.

No matter how you try to spin it, something stinks about that number, compared to average turnout in other states.

372 posted on 04/17/2016 5:58:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: LtKerst

So 2/3 of the republican primary/caucus voters are also wrong???

OKAAAAAAAY...


373 posted on 04/17/2016 6:04:10 AM PDT by JBW1949
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To: JediJones
I like that party nominees are chosen by people willing to spend more time during the process, not just people casually popping in and out to cast a vote in 5 minutes. Electing people to represent any organization should be done by people truly committed to that organization. The caucus/convention process seems to be electing people who represent the party platform better this time.

In other words, you want the Republican Establishment firmly in control of the process of selecting the nominee.

The "Establishment" is not just the senior state boss, nor the major donors.

The Establishment runs much deeper than that. The "top leaders" wouldn't be able to get anything done without the support of the lower-level state and local party establishment, just like the Mafia Dons couldn't run anything without the lower levels seeing a benefit.

The Establishment is everyone connected to the Republican party who derives a benefit from being a "member of the club", and it runs deep. It includes the donors who expect to be able use their donor status to get "problems" fixed. It includes the lower-level officials who need the cash of the donors to pay their own salaries (and get side benefits from being the "go to" guys for getting problems fixed). It includes the campaign consultants, who get paid millions every election season. The delegates, who have to be individually "wooed", are part of the Establishment.

People haven't really realized this before, when they talked about the Establishment.

374 posted on 04/17/2016 6:08:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: JediJones

IOW, you don’t want the people to chose who should run for president...You want the GOPe establishment to always pick who you should vote for....Uh-huh...Kinda like they do in Venezuala...

(We’ll tell you who is running, you just vote for them)...


375 posted on 04/17/2016 6:15:01 AM PDT by JBW1949
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To: JediJones
I would want to get rid of any winner-take-all rules, which are the most undemocratic part of the process. The Democrats have the right idea with proportional representation for delegates only. And I like New York’s rule that you have to be registered as a Republican for 8 or so months to vote in the primary. I want absolutely no crossover voting. Electing our nominee should be by committed party members only.

If we go that way, I would want one more reform: the candidates select the delegates, with no input from the party bosses. When a Republican voter votes for candidate X, he has a right to expect that the delegate thus selected will fairly and honestly represent HIS intent, not the intent of the party bosses.

376 posted on 04/17/2016 6:15:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: eartick

Republican delegate count:

Trump——————744
Cruz-——————559

4/17/2016


377 posted on 04/17/2016 6:17:45 AM PDT by JBW1949
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To: RoosterRedux
It isn't that Cruz has a good ground game. It's that the GOPee has planned this "Win by Losing" strategy from the get-go. Cruz is merely their last ditch candidate.

What some call "ground game", others call "support of the GOP Establishment organization".

378 posted on 04/17/2016 6:20:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Cboldt
Yep. And I don't think it is being coordinated at the top. I think it's the grass roots acting naturally to save their positions and power from the Trump wrecking ball.

Though we can be sure that Manafort plans to win on the first ballot, I am curious as to what his plan B might be (and you know he has one because he is the very best at this stuff).

I am guessing that if his intel tells him he cannot attract enough delegates in a second ballot, he will cut a deal with Kasich.

Of course, the rules haven't been develop for the convention, but I would hope the Presidential nominee and the Veep can combine delegates to clear the 1237 hurdle.

As an aside, RNC member Randy Evens said last week (I heard him live on NPR) that if Trump hits 1,100, Manafort could probably round up enough unbound delegates to clear 1,237.

379 posted on 04/17/2016 6:26:38 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: PapaBear3625

Exactly.


380 posted on 04/17/2016 6:27:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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