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The Definitive Birther Smackdown
Conservative Review ^ | 04/16/16 | Steve Deace

Posted on 04/17/2016 5:57:25 PM PDT by writer33

There are several resident status classifications in the United States: natural born citizen, naturalized citizen, diplomatic immunity, temporary resident (on a visa), lawful permanent resident (green card holder), and illegal alien. Ted Cruz isn't the child of diplomats, and he was never naturalized as a citizen.

So either he is an illegal alien or a natural born citizen. There is no middle ground. If you don't believe he is a natural born citizen, then you believe there is an illegal alien serving in the U.S. Senate. There is no middle ground. You should immediately call for his deportation.

The Constitution gives explicit power to the Congress to determine citizenship and border enforcement. Since the Constitution never defines explicitly what natural born citizen means, that means beginning with the 1790 Naturalization Act Congress has been defining it — which the Constitution gives Congress the power to do.

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TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
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To: EveningStar
writer33, you're dealing with fools. Hang it there.

And you are the fool who keeps showing up in these types of threads just to mock other people.

The person to whom nobody should listen is you.

41 posted on 04/17/2016 6:35:51 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Rurudyne
Fact is, the Republic under the federal Constitution that replaced that under the Articles of Confederation CEASED in FDR’s time.

Abraham Lincoln.

42 posted on 04/17/2016 6:37:01 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Cruz is utterly ineligible.”

Don’t you find it a little strange that no one has knocked him off of a state ballot? If it is so obvious, why is he on any ballot?


43 posted on 04/17/2016 6:37:28 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: lonestar67

> And when you show them to me I’ll be concerned they’re forged

Don’t be boarish.


44 posted on 04/17/2016 6:40:55 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Trump stole your lamp.


45 posted on 04/17/2016 6:41:52 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Bryan24
I guess I have to tell you I am SHOCKED that with his billions of dollars that Donald Trump has not had Cruz removed from the ballot in any state. If this is such an obvious slam-dunk, why is he still on the ballot in all the states?

Why is "Gay Marriage" legal? Because our modern courts are stupid, ignorant, and active.

I'm not arguing about what the courts will say. That ship of fools sailed a long time ago. I'm talking about real, common sense understanding of the issue.

I am a Cruz supporter. I think he will make the best President of all the choices we have.

I believe the courts will declare him "eligible." But this does not make them correct. I perceive them now as having become so ridiculous, that they don't even understand their own nonsense based legal arguments.

46 posted on 04/17/2016 6:42:00 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: All

http://running2016.com/html/canadian_ted.html

According to this, there seems to be some question about the citizenship of his mother. hmmmmmm


47 posted on 04/17/2016 6:42:12 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: EveningStar
Trump stole your lamp.

You don't make any sense even when you do say something.

48 posted on 04/17/2016 6:43:15 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: writer33
Ted Cruz isn't the child of diplomats, and he was never naturalized as a citizen.

Steve Deace is an idiot.

If he actually knew anything about this, he'd know that Ted Cruz qualified as naturalised from birth under then-existing US immigration law. Naturalisation isn't just a process someone goes through when they "take the oath." Children can be naturalised from birth - as Ted Cruz was - when their parents fulfill certain criteria. These children are legally considered to be "naturalised."

49 posted on 04/17/2016 6:43:39 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: writer33

Willfully ignorant or propagandist


50 posted on 04/17/2016 6:46:12 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Bryan24
Don’t you find it a little strange that no one has knocked him off of a state ballot? If it is so obvious, why is he on any ballot?

I don't find it a bit strange.

The fact is, the decisions in PA and NJ were entirely political. There is no state judge who is going to overturn the apple cart by declaring a leading presidential contender ineligible this late in the primary season, regardless of the facts or merits of the case. No judge is going to put him or herself into that kind of position where they suddenly become the most hated person in America, and become the centre of a legal firestorm that would most certainly end in their credibility being damaged one way or another. Not going to happen. Frankly, Ted Cruz could have been born in Canada of two illegal immigrant Cuban parents, and these judges would still have managed to find him "eligible" on some basis or another.

That's why it's up to We the People to know the English common law history behind natural born citizenship well enough to recognise for ourselves that he isn't eligible, and vote accordingly.

51 posted on 04/17/2016 6:50:31 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Lincoln’s lawlessness, such as it was, did not long survive him, which is a huge difference. Nor did he advance true Arbitrary government as the progressives most certainly have done. The Republic still operated on the basis of the actual Constitution after Lincoln.

Lincoln’s misdeeds, though sometimes serious, simply do not compare to FDR’s.


52 posted on 04/17/2016 6:52:04 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I’d be willing to bet if we could see the records, he was solely a Canadian citizen until 1986 when he wanted a driver’s license and a passport. That no paperwork was filed with the US government that he even existed until then.
He was still a Canadian until very recently.

One cannot be anything else and a natural born citizen.
Multiple citizenships precludes natural born citizen status.


53 posted on 04/17/2016 6:58:13 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Ray76

great tip


54 posted on 04/17/2016 7:00:11 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: lonestar67

Take it to heart.


55 posted on 04/17/2016 7:01:20 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Ray76

Here is something else to take to heart:

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/02/wife_of_alabama_supreme_court.html


56 posted on 04/17/2016 7:04:38 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: lonestar67

Off topic. You are a boar.


57 posted on 04/17/2016 7:07:51 PM PDT by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: biggredd1

Nowhere in Senate Resolution 511 does it say that two U.S. Citizen parents are REQUIRED. The non-binding senate resolution merely acknowledges the fact that both of John McCain’s parents were U.S. citizens at the tine of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone.

The exact wording: “Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it:
That John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born Citizen under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.”

If such a resolution is ever needed for Senator Cruz, a bi-partisan group of senators will co-sponsor it.


58 posted on 04/17/2016 7:11:37 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: writer33

“But both weren’t born in the U.S.”

Both parents have to be U.S. citizens at the time of the child’s birth in the jurisdiction of the Article III courts of the United States to qualify as a natural born citizen of the United States. There is no requirement and can never possibly be a requirement for the parents and their parents to be natural born citizens themselves in an unbroken string back into time. At some point back in time there had to be one or both parents who were naturalized as citizens in order to be citizens when the child was born. Trump’s parents wee both U.S. citizens when he was born, and the fact his mother was a naturalized citizen is not relevant to that determination of Donald Trump being a natural born citizen.


59 posted on 04/17/2016 7:12:01 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Both definitions passed citizenship paternally.

Paternally, eh? There's a chance that might have flown in 1716, but not in 2016!

60 posted on 04/17/2016 7:13:44 PM PDT by cynwoody
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