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Trump: ‘I Don’t Want To Play The Rule Game…We Live In A Democracy’ [VIDEO]
Daily Caller ^ | 4/17/16 | Kerry Picket

Posted on 04/18/2016 2:51:08 AM PDT by markomalley

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump told reporters at a press conference Sunday in Staten Island that the Republican primary nomination process is “rigged” against him and he refuses to play by the rules established by GOP state party committees he deems unfair.

“I don’t want to play the rule game, because I’ll tell you what, we live in a democracy and it’s all about getting the bosses out. The bosses are picking. Now I’m winning, you will say. I’m wining by 200 delegates. I’m winning, more importantly in my opinion, I’m winning by 2 million votes. In other words I’ve gotten more than 2 million votes,” Trump said, when asked why he does not work within the rules different state contests have.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz swept up all of Wyoming’s available delegates at the state’s GOP convention Saturday night. Although Wyoming Republican voters caucused on March 12 at local conventions to begin the delegate election process, Trump and his supporters called it a voter-less primary.

A similar situation occurred in Colorado where Cruz delegates won all the open slots to go to the convention through a process that began at local caucuses on March 1.

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus fired back at Trump this week for accusing the party of having a rigged system.

New York Republican Rep. Peter King told Fox News earlier on Sunday that the “system is what it is.” Ohio Gov. John Kasich as well as Cruz could call the New York primary unfair too, should Trump win at least 50 percent of the GOP vote statewide and receive at least 50 percent of the Republican votes in most or all  of the Empire State’s congressional districts.

“He may get 53 or 54 percent of the vote, but if he gets 100 percent of the delegates, now, Cruz or Kasich could say, ‘That’s unfair.’ The very nature of a nominating process is always — Iowa has caucuses. Some have open primaries. Others just have local conventions. That’s just the way it’s been and it’s not meant to be easy. Whatever it is, I don’t see it as an attempt to stop Donald Trump,” King said. “These rules have been in effect in one way or another, with their idiosyncracies, for one hundred years. And in some cases, others get changed every few years, but that’s part of running for president. you have to learn how to navigate the minefields,” he added.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: colorado; gangof14posting; gope; moronposting; reprepublic; rnc; tdsorgy; trump
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To: peyton randolph

Representative Republic to be precise. There is far more to the meaning of that than you seem willing to admit. We The People decide who will be our representatives in the Republic. The decisions on who is supposed to be done democratically by voting.

BTW, It is the Democrat Party, not the Democratic Party.


21 posted on 04/18/2016 3:29:13 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: markomalley

A representative republic means that the delegates represent the voters. There were no voters in Colorado or Wyoming. Starting the process with anything but a private vote in a primary by registered voters is absurd.


22 posted on 04/18/2016 3:30:38 AM PDT by grania
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To: RC one

US Constitution
Article IV
Section 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government....


23 posted on 04/18/2016 3:32:03 AM PDT by cowboyway ("Give me a beer or two and I'll be fine, at least that's worked every other time....")
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To: RedWulf
We all grew up being told we’re a democracy so that’s what 95% of the public thinks.

We all grew up being told we'd have flying cars by now, too.........

24 posted on 04/18/2016 3:33:38 AM PDT by cowboyway ("Give me a beer or two and I'll be fine, at least that's worked every other time....")
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To: cowboyway

and your point is?


25 posted on 04/18/2016 3:34:37 AM PDT by RC one
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To: markomalley

Demagogue.


26 posted on 04/18/2016 3:35:39 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: grania

“A representative republic means that the delegates represent the voters.”

Which is what a caucus does. You elect a slate of delegates.


27 posted on 04/18/2016 3:39:23 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: cowboyway
the problem is is that some of us haven't figured out that republic and democracy aren't mutually exclusive. Quite the opposite in fact, the two things normally go hand-in-hand. We're a constitutional republic. That means our constitution is the supreme law of the land, not a monarch (or dictator). Our constitutional republic is also a representative democracy (as opposed to a direct democracy). That means we the people elect representatives and they are supposed to then represent our interests.
28 posted on 04/18/2016 3:39:26 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Dead Corpse
which is what a caucus is supposed to do.
29 posted on 04/18/2016 3:40:16 AM PDT by RC one
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To: markomalley

And yet, when Gore argued that he won the popular vote over Bush, we all sided with the election rules. This is no different. If you don’t like the rules, change them next time around, but you have to win the game under the rules in effect.

I was disappointed (again) that Trump didn’t make the minimal effort that would have earned him the Wyoming delegates. Does anyone think Trump could not have found 1,000 registered Republican supporters in Wyoming who would have attended the Wyoming Caucuses if he had tried? Anyone? I don’t like caucus rules, but I blame Trump for not trying.


30 posted on 04/18/2016 3:43:09 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: RC one

I’m embarrassed for you that you’d want to debate this with people without having ever opened a book on political philosophy.


31 posted on 04/18/2016 3:43:28 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Dead Corpse

>Which is what a caucus does. You elect a slate of delegates.

Which you have no way of knowing who they support or if they’re lying about their support. Ya, no thanks. It takes very little effort to have a presidential preference poll and then binding delegates to the results and the only reason not to do is to rig the process.


32 posted on 04/18/2016 3:44:52 AM PDT by RedWulf
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To: Truthsearcher

It’s not a pure democracy in that every issue isn’t a direct vote. It’s a democracy in the sense that power comes from the consent of the governed. That’s why Anton Scalia routinely referred to our country as a democracy. Not all republics are democratic. Not all democracies are republics. But they aren’t exclusive.


33 posted on 04/18/2016 3:47:19 AM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: olezip
Why would the RNC set up a rigged system?

The "system" Trump is complaining about actually are multiple state systems, and were set up by state GOP organizations, not the RNC. In fact, the RNC passed a rule requiring that if a straw poll vote is held, it must be binding on delegates.

34 posted on 04/18/2016 3:47:53 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: RC one

And if you still are trying to wrap your mind around it, remember that the form of government that the founders feared more than anything was democracy.

Read the Federalist Papers.

The Donald is a textbook case for showcasing the founders fears.


35 posted on 04/18/2016 3:48:20 AM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: markomalley

uh we live in a democratic republic, DT. go back to “Go”


36 posted on 04/18/2016 3:49:19 AM PDT by avital2
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To: Truthsearcher
The key point is that we are a representative republic, where people don't vote directly on issues but rather elect representatives to do so. The caucus systems set up by a lot of states emphasize that aspect. People attend caucus, and elect delegates who then attend other meetings, elect the next layer of delegates, etc..
37 posted on 04/18/2016 3:49:34 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: RC one

We have it here in Mn. Our straw poll went Rubio, but that tide shifted to Cruz when we started electing delegates. Next round of delegate selection is this weekend. I’m an Alternate.

Don’t like the system? Try getting involved and work to get changes implemented.

B*tching about the rules half-way through the game is what liberals do.


38 posted on 04/18/2016 3:49:45 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: RedWulf

Spoken like someone who has never been to a caucus.


39 posted on 04/18/2016 3:50:27 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

>The caucus systems set up by a lot of states emphasize that aspect. People attend caucus, and elect delegates who then attend other meetings, elect the next layer of delegates, etc..

Nice theory but actual results show that party bosses chose who gets the delegates.


40 posted on 04/18/2016 3:53:27 AM PDT by RedWulf
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