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Republicans Think They’ll Outfox Trump? Think Again
The Daily Beast ^ | 04/18/2016 | Adam Goodman

Posted on 04/18/2016 2:48:49 PM PDT by MaxistheBest

If there’s one thing Trump knows better than just about anybody, it’s how to make a deal. It’s a skill that’ll come in handy in Cleveland.

As pundits and political prophets focus on deciphering the vagaries of “delegate math” leading into July’s Republican convention in Cleveland—how many delegates do you need, how do you secure them, how do you keep them—stories abound about how the party establishment is plotting to deny Donald Trump the nomination.

The prevailing theory is that the grand poobahs of party discipline will pursue a three-step strategy. First, they’ll use Ted Cruz as their Trojan horse to ensure Trump falls short of the 1,237 delegates needed on the first ballot. Then they’ll pivot to stop Cruz from emerging on the second and third ballots. And finally, they’ll implant their own choice as the consensus unifier—John Kasich or Marco Rubio or Scott Walker, now that Paul Ryan has demurred.

There’s just one little problem with this scenario: Donald Trump gets it. He knows the cabal is laying in wait to use the soon-to-be-infamous rule 40(b)—a nominee must have the majority of voting delegates in at least eight states—to validate the coup despite 16 million voters who by then would have pulled the Trump lever over the others.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016gopprimary; election; election2016; gope; lyinted; newyork; trump
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1 posted on 04/18/2016 2:48:49 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: MaxistheBest

Trump already has met Rule 40.

Next?


2 posted on 04/18/2016 2:49:54 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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3 posted on 04/18/2016 2:51:17 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: LS
Actually, according to the way Rule 40b is written, it would be possible (not likely, but possible as the rule is written) that Trump could fail to have his name placed in nomination. The rule is not that you have to win a majority of bound delegates in 8 states. The rule is that you have to get a majority of the delegates in 8 states to sign a statement of support for you before each ballot. And just because a delegate is bound to a particular candidate for the ballot doesn't mean they are obliged to sign the statement of support for that candidate.

So it would be possible, if Cruz or Kasich were to get a majority or even a plurality of the delegate spots filled with their supporters in the states where Trump has a majority of bound delegates, that Trump might not be able to get majority support from 8 states to get his name placed in nomination... as I said, I don't think it likely, but the rules would allow it.

4 posted on 04/18/2016 2:52:33 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: LS

Trump already has met Rule 40.

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It will probably change.


5 posted on 04/18/2016 2:52:56 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: MaxistheBest

So the writer thinks the “fox” Trump will make a deal with Cruz? Nah, it’s NOT gonna happen-—several hundred “lyin’ Teds” too many.


6 posted on 04/18/2016 2:53:39 PM PDT by House Atreides (TRUMP or CRUZ --- The 1st one to get to 1237 gets the Nomination Brass Ring...PERIOD)
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here’s the thing...The GOPe are used to “handling” politicians...They know how to coerce and bend politicians to their certain satisfaction...

Trump isn’t a politician...They are going to be steamrolled by Trump....


7 posted on 04/18/2016 2:53:45 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: MaxistheBest

Trump is such a genius deal maker yet can’t even figure out the primary system and resorts to cheating claims. If Trump’s IQ matches his verbal skills it is about 85.


8 posted on 04/18/2016 3:01:49 PM PDT by kik5150 (Cruz argued 9 times before Supreme Court judges. Trump argues with beauty pageant judges.)
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With Trump talking about the rigging process, he has the GOP
in a vice grip. It won’t be less painful for the GOP anytime soon.
The GOPe’s are squirming like worms.


9 posted on 04/18/2016 3:04:19 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: MaxistheBest

Author is counting on Cruz boosting Trump by allying with him.

Cruz is poised to win all the marbles on Ballot #2. What is Ted’s motivation to make a deal with Trump?


10 posted on 04/18/2016 3:05:57 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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The bound delegates and their statement are not separate. The statement is the acknowledgement in writing.


11 posted on 04/18/2016 3:06:18 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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BTTT


12 posted on 04/18/2016 3:06:50 PM PDT by Let's Roll ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality" -- Ayn Rand)
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>> he has the GOP in a vice [sic] grip

What is the nature of the vise grip? I don’t see it. Sounds like it’s the other way around.


13 posted on 04/18/2016 3:07:40 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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I’m livid. I’m in upstate NY. The polls don’t open until noon....but that’s only county wide.


14 posted on 04/18/2016 3:08:03 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: LS

what about cruz? Does he met rule 40


15 posted on 04/18/2016 3:09:02 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Sacajaweau
The bound delegates and their statement are not separate.

Yes they are. There is nothing in the rule to require that a bound delegate sign the statement of support for the nomination. Go and read the rule if you don't believe me.

16 posted on 04/18/2016 3:09:52 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Nervous Tick

Cruz will need to find 700 delegates to switch. Where will he find that? Its not an easy task


17 posted on 04/18/2016 3:11:16 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: JBW1949

Yup. AND everybody seems to forget that Trump is making his deal with the AMERICAN people! Remember us? We’re the ones who will revolt and crush the “party” for all time.


18 posted on 04/18/2016 3:11:25 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: kik5150

“If Trump’s IQ matches his verbal skills it is about 85.”

I saw a chsrt back when there were 15 candidates that assessed the level each candidate was using to communicate with the voters. Trump was at the very bottom using 6th grade level speeches. Looks like he found the level of intellect of the bulk of the country. He must have picked up on the “Watters World” man on the streen interviews which show the deplorable state of the reasoning abilities of our citizenry. Trump had it figured out from the getgo. Go Trump!


19 posted on 04/18/2016 3:13:26 PM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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>> what about cruz? Does he met rule 40

I’m pretty sure both Trump and Cruz can meet Rule 40 for at least two or three ballots.

Kasich, probably not even for Ballot #1. Kasich would be the early casualty.


20 posted on 04/18/2016 3:13:31 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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