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The Convention Could Very Well Prove to Be a RUN-OFF Election That Trump Could Very Well LOSE
self | 04/22/16 | the_doc

Posted on 04/22/2016 1:24:48 PM PDT by the_doc

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To: flintsilver7

well, bye.


61 posted on 04/22/2016 2:43:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: altura

“Trump is (almost) universally despised.”

Keep it up and you will be in that territory yourself.


62 posted on 04/22/2016 2:45:42 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS !!!)
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To: Mechanicos

Have we not all learned that this is a terrible year for broad pronouncements?...conventional wisdom isn’t applicable to this election by any means...

For months we’ve heard time and again such and such have everything worked out...then it isn’t.

As said...Trump a joke. No, wait, he’s inevitable.... He’s out of control.... No, now he’s more disciplined, He’s got this.... No, he’s a loose cannon.

Then ...Cruz has no chance to be the nominee. No, wait, now he has the inside track..... His campaign operation has too many flaws.... No, now they are the smart ones with the best delegate roundup skills.

and as much....It’s the Year of the Governor. Nope, all the Governors are gone..... Wait, there’s one. It’s John Kasich.... He’s a terrible choice. No, wait, he’s great because he matches up well against Hillary. But he can’t win anything outside his own state and Manhattan.

For the first time we don’t have a nominee elected by Spring...yet we hear everybody proclaiming what they can forsee down the road.....Meanwhile the rehtoric of supporters on both sides scream out....“Trump can’t win” and “Cruz can’t win.” ..and on and on it goes. Which is nothing more than ‘campaign piffle’.

How’s all that working for you???? And you want anybody to say how Cruz can or not beat Hillary??? LOLOLOLOL

“The truth of the matter....there is a plausible path forward for either man to be sworn in as the 45th President of the United States.”


63 posted on 04/22/2016 2:45:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: altura

see post 63...:)


64 posted on 04/22/2016 2:47:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for removing the trash!


65 posted on 04/22/2016 2:49:52 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When The Ballot No Longer Counts, The Ammo Box Does! What's In Your Ammo Box?(US Conservative)!)
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To: PJBankard

There have been 7 contested conventions and 6 of them produced the nominee. Lincoln was just one of them. Not a bad outcome when the “mob” insisted on mob rule.


66 posted on 04/22/2016 2:51:00 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: altura

>He’s been aligned with the dems for years. He did not HAVE to donate to Hillary to do business. He wanted to. He likes her.

First he calls Bill Clinton a rapist and now he’s calling Hillery: Crooked Clinton. He’s taking the fight to the the dems on a scale not seen in ages and your argument is a lie.


67 posted on 04/22/2016 2:53:11 PM PDT by RedWulf ((Trump supporter))
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To: the_doc

A runoff election minus the voters...a Ted Cruz/GOPe wet dream!

Cruz is toast. Trump will be well over 1237 on the first ballot.


68 posted on 04/22/2016 2:53:24 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: altura

Honestly, no matter what thread you post in, your zealotry for Cruz is comical.

You have no basis in reality for your beliefs, yet you attempt to pass them off as factual.

I was for Cruz at the beginning. Along the way, it became obvious that although he has a good “conservative” record, he would never be able to win the general election. The votes already cast have made this painfully clear.

His antics have not helped his cause. The desperate support of his base refuses to see what is plainly visible to the rest of the electorate.

Mr. Trump has garnered more support than any other candidate and the reasons for that are very simple. This has been noted previously. In fact, Mr. Robinson has posted his positives in a very well constructed manner, so I will not bother to go into those details yet again as I have no doubt you have already seen them.

Mr. Trump is the only candidate that can win in the general election against Clinton. That is a fact, and it is backed up by the actual votes that have been registered during the primary process.

Mr. Trump may not be the most conservative, but he is the most conservative candidate who actually has a chance to win the general election.

No matter how much you despise him, the truth is there. You can disagree with it all you please, but it will not change reality.


69 posted on 04/22/2016 2:54:07 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: freeangel

Please show me the voter counts from the State Primaries held for Lincoln. I’ll give you a hint there are none.


70 posted on 04/22/2016 2:56:17 PM PDT by PJBankard (Political Correctness has killed America. It is time America is resurrected.)
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To: the_doc

Very good! Clearly explains the situation. Thanks


71 posted on 04/22/2016 2:57:38 PM PDT by octex
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To: the_doc

If someone other than Trump is SELected, my political year will end right there. I will tune it out and November 8th will just be another Tuesday.


72 posted on 04/22/2016 2:58:21 PM PDT by montag813
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To: LS; the_doc
And, yeah, the CO thing was a deliberate attempt to thwart the will of the people, as today’s Magellan poll proves. They KNEW who would win, and didn’t want Trump winning. So climb down off the GOPe tree.

Magellan poll:

If a Republican Presidential Primary Election were to take place in Colorado, 44% of likely voters would vote for Donald Trump, 34% support Ted Cruz, 17% support John Kasich and 5% are undecided. When asked to choose between only Ted Cruz or Donald Trump, 48% support Trump and 42% support Cruz, and 10% are undecided. These results are interesting in light of the results at the Republican State Convention where Ted Cruz won all 34 delegates awarded. What the results show is a potential disconnect between the more dedicated group of delegates who participated in the state convention and the far broader group of 350,000 to 400,000 Republicans who would typically vote in a primary election.

73 posted on 04/22/2016 3:03:22 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: the_doc

All good points. The Trumpsters are sounding just like the Cruzites were when Cruz won Wisconsin. Now might be the best time for both sides to announce that they will support the candidate that wins a majority (not a plurality) and show Unity! No one wins when they are divided, and Hillary will definitely win if people continue to be fanatical about their own candidates and throw Unity to the wind.


74 posted on 04/22/2016 3:04:19 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: the_doc

The person with the most delegates should get it.

Just my .02


75 posted on 04/22/2016 3:08:38 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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To: caww

We have seen this before, its the the denial stage of grief.


76 posted on 04/22/2016 3:14:08 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: flintsilver7

Bye Bye. You were very deserving of the lightening.


77 posted on 04/22/2016 3:17:07 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: the_doc

Well I hope you feel better now. But Ted Cruz is done. You know how when you chop the head off a chicken but it still runs around for a minute or so? That’s Teddy. Trump is the presumptive nominee at this point. There will be no contested convention.


78 posted on 04/22/2016 3:22:58 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Your claim that Cruz is the establishment guy is just silly propaganda lies. Conservatives have worked for years to force the establishment to a showdown where they have no choice but to follow our lead.

We finally get that with a principled conservative with an actual conservative track record and half our base wants to toss that away to flirt with a populist with no conservative track record rather an entrenched history of being exactly the crony establishment insider we’ve been fighting against.

The irony is unreal.


79 posted on 04/22/2016 3:27:58 PM PDT by ziravan (Why do Trump Supporters Oppose a Bogel for the Glotch?)
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To: caww
“The truth of the matter....there is a plausible path forward for either man to be sworn in as the 45th President of the United States.”

Sorry, there is only the most miniscule of chances for Cruz. His only hope is forcing a contested convention AND making sure Rule 40b stays in place. The problem is, he is working with the GOPe to gain delegates - and those delegates will have no loyalty to Cruz on crucial rule votes. If the convention is contested, Rule 40b will likely be scrapped and Cruz will be tossed aside like a used diaper ... and for the exact same reason.

80 posted on 04/22/2016 3:29:28 PM PDT by dirtboy
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