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How long will it take Trump to repeal ObamaCare? (Vanity)
4/23/2016 | Myself

Posted on 04/22/2016 10:11:45 PM PDT by Crucial

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To: Hugin

Correctomundo!

you have to understand that the Cruz Crew has been fed lies in misrepresentations to the point that they actually believe what they have not actually heard to be facts.

Cruz is the liar. Freepers who follow him have been deceived like I and hundreds of others were... and it cost us big dollars.

Cruz said many right things... and then he stuck it to the grass roots. Betrayal and treason against his “true believer” followers. I get it. I believed too. I still have my principles but I now realize Ted is the one who got me off track. It is constant misdirection by him all day long everyday, donald this and donald said that... blah blah...

Screw the North Carolina restroom baloney...

Iran is preparing to NUKE US. Mexico and China have almost our entire manufacturing base wiped out.

We don’t even know how to MAKE great steel in most of our “former steel towns” anymore. We are so screwed!
And these FREE TRADE globalists are RAPING us financially just like the Muslims are raping the women in Europe and daring anyone to stop them... and the Cruz folks want us to argue with them about Trumps referral to TWO CORINTHIANS.

A bunch of Bull crap it is.

There will always be an intent to provide health care for every American citizen, but we cannot also support all these prxxks who come here illegally came here sick to begin with and don’t pay taxes and who take our jobs while they send their paychecks to mexico...

and the same goes for up north too. and China, Korea, India, Japan et al.

AMERICA FIRST, LAST and ONLY.
Build the wall, throw the freeloaders over, make NATO pay its fair share and then tax imports until free trade is fair and equal, without the phony currency manipulations by our financial rapists who are protected by the globalist rinos and dems. and that includes Hillary AND Ted Goldman Sachs Cruz.

After we get that done, maybe we can afford to take care of our own first, as God commands. Look diligently to the state of YOUR flocks and YOUR HERDS... not other countries. We can help people but we are NOT going to pay for the freeloaders, fight their wars, build their mosques, buy their oil etc.

We are broke and cannot afford it to begin, or end with either. Once we get this convention done, I hope things will settle down because we only have a few months to cripple Hillary and flush the Congressional toilet who even now is plotting to stop the repeal of Obama care.


81 posted on 04/23/2016 3:15:37 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: nathanbedford

and so have you and I.
based on what we thought to be facts at that time.


82 posted on 04/23/2016 3:17:42 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: MIA_eccl1212
I heard him say it repeatedly repeal and replace...

Replace with what, that's the question. Sure he has that plan on his website which will solve nothing. But as we've seen lately Trump's positions change almost on a daily basis so there is no idea what he has in mind, or whether that will just make everything worse.

83 posted on 04/23/2016 3:21:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: sargon
Boy, you just latch on and parrot every lame anti-Trump meme the Media throws out there, don't you? Yawn.

We would know the truth if Trump would release the transcript of his sellout meeting with the New York Times. But just as he has paid off litigants to silence them from proving he committed fraud, so he holds the New York Times to silence to cover his fraud against us.

As to the rest of your predictions of a Trump victory, I say that as and when it occurs you and I will have no quarrel and you will find me a faithful supporter of the nominee. However… If Cruz becomes the nominee you refuse to say whether you will support him. I suppose your double standard passes for uprightness among Trump supporters but I tell you that unity in the Republican Party after the nomination is a Two Way Street.


84 posted on 04/23/2016 3:21:44 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Hugin
He has said over and over again he wants to "repeal and replace" the system with one where insurance companies compete privately across state lines.

Which will accomplish what? Insurance companies can already sell across state lines so long as they are registered with the state agency responsible for insurance regulation.

85 posted on 04/23/2016 3:25:26 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Crucial

What’s the possibility of ginning up 60 pro-repeal votes in a new, Chuck Shumer-led Senate? Answer: none. Trump would have to nibble it down through exec actions.


86 posted on 04/23/2016 3:26:31 AM PDT by ScottinVA (But.. but.. the WALL!!)
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To: Crucial
Technically, using the same mechanisms that Obama abused, he can order departments to not enforce any related obamacare policy.

It's the era of the "SUPER PRESIDENT" donchaknow?

Click (safe) for a good retro-laugh:


87 posted on 04/23/2016 3:26:53 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MIA_eccl1212
I think you are right but if not Trump, then who, and when?
I think he has the potential to break our govt problems down into several mega task forces and under them, into hundreds or thousands of smaller task forces

Bring private experts in and give them the power to thoroughly review the issues and work with the willing on solutions. Publicize publicize and use social media to keep the grassroots informed so they can " encourage" the willing to get it done

Empower his selectees by giving them direct access to his presidency
I think prioritization is already underway and will be critical
The economy. Tax reform, Health care changes, border security, immigration control, national security review and realignment and the military, dump common core education - and get back to delegating power to the states

There won't be time to patrol potties or deal with other tar baby social issues at least in the early months or years
People who vote based on those issues may choose elsewhere or stay home but they are a minority in the upcoming groundswell for changes in the priority areas
88 posted on 04/23/2016 3:28:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: DoodleDawg

You are wrong. The states control what products can be sold, and each imposes there own regulations. Some are very sparsely regulated, others are a nightmare of bureaucracy. It’s not just a matter of registering.


89 posted on 04/23/2016 3:31:15 AM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Hugin
You are wrong. The states control what products can be sold, and each imposes there own regulations. Some are very sparsely regulated, others are a nightmare of bureaucracy. It’s not just a matter of registering.

Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I should be. Sure registering with a state's insurance commission requires that the insurance company comply with regulatory requirements. But why would I want to buy a policy from a company that does not currently do business in Missouri? And why would they want to sell a policy to me?

90 posted on 04/23/2016 3:34:42 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Crucial

He’ll replace Obamacare with single payer Trumpcare. All the Trumpbots will rejoice.


91 posted on 04/23/2016 3:36:49 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Abraham Lincoln won the GOP nomination on the 3rd ballot at the 1860 convention)
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To: Ted Grant

YOU think the GOP is the victim.

It is the American People who are the victims.

The GOP deserves a French revolution for their treason,
and their lies, and the fact that THEY IMPOSED RomneyCARE
and never once wanted to get rid of it,
but instead continued
to lie and keep THEMSELVES, THEIR families,
and THEIR staff, EXEMPT.

The GOP is the evil turd you bring home to your
newly carpeted floor, and can then NEVER REMOVE.


92 posted on 04/23/2016 3:37:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Rome2000

“First order of business is to grow a small mustache.”

******

I’m expecting a toga and a proclamation he’s Orange Julius Caesar.


93 posted on 04/23/2016 3:39:21 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Abraham Lincoln won the GOP nomination on the 3rd ballot at the 1860 convention)
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To: nathanbedford
If Cruz becomes the nominee you refuse to say whether you will support him.

There's no double standard. I've said at least a half dozen times, including several in direct response to you, that I'd support Ted Cruz were he to be the nominee.

Fortunately, I won't have to face that moral dilemma.

Pay attention in the future please, because you've now leveled that false accusation at me many times, and no matter how often I disabuse you of your faulty notion, you seem to repeat the charge.

The Revolution is ON!

Vote Trump

94 posted on 04/23/2016 3:40:04 AM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: DoodleDawg

This is America, we’re supposed to have interstate commerce. If you choose not to do business with out of state firms that’s up to you. But if someone want’s to buy a policy from a company in another state, why shouldn’t they? Generally increased competition is a good thing. You have some states where there are only one or two companies to choose from.


95 posted on 04/23/2016 3:49:32 AM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Crucial

Cruz claimed if we elected him and the eGOP to the Senate they would immediately repeal ObamaCare. We did, then they had excuses why they didn’t. In fact, they FUNDED ObamaCare!


96 posted on 04/23/2016 3:56:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: DoodleDawg
Sure he has that plan on his website which will solve nothing
that's what the naysayers keep parroting. and they are almost all repeating verbatim Cruz Campaign talking points. and what you expressed is YOUR opinion not mine.

his ideas will work better than obama's You and I may have to just take it or leave it. I am taking it. Your mileage may vary.

The same thing goes with your overall questioning of Trump positions comment. His position is TOO flexible for you, not stable enough... but it is TOO fixed for others, like me.

We may have to get over the fact that he is not going to resonate with any two of us the same way. You don't like his plan... you have the option of choosing another candidate, which I suspect you may be inclined to do.

Regardless, NO candidate in their right mind will ever be able or willing to give us details to the satisfaction of all their potential constituents.

There is an element here of "Learning Adaptation and Innovation" see link. because the landscape is constantly changing.

When Schwartkopf said, "we are going to cut it off, attrit and kill it" or something similar, some dumb ass in the press asked but where and how?

and this is war with globalism. and the enemy is within the gates. Trump intends to tell the enemy to go to hell. Ted, I believe firmly has embraced the enemy and he is in fact MR. Goldman Sachs.

I don't know Ted's plans either. I do know who he is in bed with politically... the globalists. And I like the owner of the site... have embraced the presumed nominee for this electoral season.

97 posted on 04/23/2016 4:02:04 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: silverleaf

There is no one else better suited. Trump is the nominee.
He is the best one and we need him for this hour.
He is not the savior. Jesus is the savior.
We gotta save our nation by picking good leaders and firing the losers.

I wholeheartedly agree with every word you said.
We wont have much point to debating restroom issues, when our families lie in piles of nuclear dust at our feet.


98 posted on 04/23/2016 4:06:59 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10 rounds 10 meters 10 seconds 10 centimetres)
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To: Ted Grant
"Here’s the thing about Republicans. They’re very inept and weak. They can be bullied by the Democrats and the liberal media."

"Weak" is not the proper term for the scumbags.... I think compromised and dirty is closer to the truth.... Easily blackmailed...

We need a fresh sack of stinking lawyers.....

99 posted on 04/23/2016 4:08:23 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: ScottinVA
What’s the possibility of ginning up 60 pro-repeal votes in a new, Chuck Shumer-led Senate? Answer: none. Trump would have to nibble it down through exec actions.

Nailed it.

Trump as president would be severely confined due to what will amount to "non-participation" in many cases from both sides of congress and both parties.

Doesn't mean we should not bother. We need either Trump or Cruz.

And yeah, I would support Cruz in a heartbeat if Trump can't pull it off. Watching Cruz this election, I have no doubt he'd go after the left with every tool in his arsenal. I just know his path to the office is that much more unlikely than Trumps.

Both these guys, despite the orchestrated propaganda are miles above any leftist rat, including the other GOPe candidates.

100 posted on 04/23/2016 4:09:45 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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