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To: BradtotheBone

The UK should try to take over the EU. By leaving they are surrendering Europe to Germany. The UK will become an insignificant little island and will probably break apart with Scotland getting out, etc.


3 posted on 04/23/2016 3:30:54 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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To: Helicondelta
By leaving, the UK is saving itself from the disaster that is befalling the EU and Germany.

The UK has its own serious problem with the muslim invasion. It doesn't need to be bound at the hip with the EU and the EU's unwillingness to face reality about islam and border problems.

When one looks at Obama from the POV of his being a jihadi, everything he does vis-a-vis the muslim world makes complete sense.

6 posted on 04/23/2016 3:37:24 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: Helicondelta
Churchill clarified his thoughts on Britain’s role within a united Europe a month later, in January 1941. According to John Colville, the Prime Minister told him at Ditchley, Churchill’s grand weekend retreat near Oxford, that “there must be a united Europe and that he believed that it should be built by the English; if the Russians built it, there would be communism and squalor; if the Germans built it, there would be tyranny and brute force.” …

Churchill’s Cold War: The Politics of Personal Diplomacy by Klaus Larres, 2002, p. 63
One thing Obama said back in 2009 was that he was “extraordinarily impressed” by the EU’s leadership. His return of the Churchill bust shows where he falls on this equation.
19 posted on 04/23/2016 4:32:20 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Most of Europe, not just the British, is fed up with being instructed what to do by an overpaid and untaxed cadre of know it all mandarins in Brussels and Strasbourg. Telling the British how to measure and charge for beer, the French how to make cheese, and the Germans how to make sausages, has been a running joke and sore for decades. Even those at the shallow work ethic end of the money pool, receiving benefits at the expense of their "rich" neighbors' taxpayers, such as Greece, Spain, etc. bridle at Brussels' dictates.

But in Britain's case you have a nation which has always felt itself aloof and distinct from, and threatened by, Europe. Since the British also have an underlying resentment of American hubris (overpaid, oversexed, and over here) Obama's ham handed remarks (is he capable of any other kind?) may just be the kick to the hornets' nest needed to push Brexit into a majority.

23 posted on 04/23/2016 4:44:38 AM PDT by katana
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To: Helicondelta

“The UK will become an insignificant little island and will probably break apart with Scotland getting out, etc.”

That will be their fate IF they stay in EU. That is what central governments do to states.


30 posted on 04/23/2016 5:06:38 AM PDT by odawg
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