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To: pookie18
If that happens, then so be it, but the process, as always, should play out rather than you anoint someone king...

I have just been trying to catch up with this thread and am on your post 348. As I understand the argument to this point:

Cruz can't get to 1237 so he should drop out and no one here should support his continuation to the convention.

Trump is the only one who has a chance to get to 1237 before the convention so everyone should support him although he might not get the magic number.

My question would be: If Trump does not get the 1237, does he have the same obligation to drop out as Cruz. If the threshold for him is reduced to something lower than a majority, does Cruz get a lower threshold also.

Your argument is that the process should be allowed to play out rather than have some last minute rule change to appoint someone who could not put together a majority.

If I understand your argument correctly, I would have to agree with you. When you try to short circuit the process to satisfy one group, you create the very dissension you might seek to avoid. These candidates are big boys and when they have no other choice, they will work it out. To use a sports metaphor, I want to win the super bowl, not the pre season.

550 posted on 04/23/2016 8:11:11 PM PDT by etcb
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To: etcb

An update from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3418598/posts?page=198#198 from 9Apr2016

Trump has: (was 743) now 846

Cruz has his own: (517) now 563

If Cruz gets all of Kasich and Rubio, then Kasich’s: 143
Plus Rubio’s: 172
Cruz total: (was 832) now 878

Let’s say Trump takes a larger share of those totals.
+ 65% Kasich’s: 143 x .65 = 93
+ 60% Rubio’s: 60% x 172 = 103

Cruz total: 563 + 93 + 103 = 759
Trump Total: (if the remainder) 846 +50 +69 = 965

Another iteration:
Let’s say Cruz takes a larger share of those totals.
+ 85% Kasich’s: 143 x 85% = 121
+ 85% Rubio’s: 85% x 172 = 146

Cruz total: 563 + 121 + 146 = 830
Trump Total: (if the remainder) 846 + 22 + 26 = 894

Split has gotten wider.
Let’s say Cruz gets 95% of those votes.
+ 95% Kasich’s: 143 x 95% = 136
+ 95% Rubio’s: 95% x 172 = 163

Cruz total: 563 + 136 + 163 = 862
Trump Total: (if the remainder) 846 + 7 + 9 = 862

Looks like Cruz will need to take at least 95% of the released delegates if they split the remaining state delegates.

Unless Trump does something which is fundamentally opposed to conservative values, I don’t see Cruz picking up those percentages. I suspect Cruz and Trump numbers will come in around 40%-60%.

Ergo, even with split popular votes, the delegates will most likely still tally for Trump.

So what’s with the recent campaign to attack those who seek to win delegates? That’s the system and the system is still working.


579 posted on 04/23/2016 8:52:25 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: etcb

Well, I’m for the process to take it’s course. At some point, I probably thought that Kasich should drop out, but he doesn’t want to & I guess he (as well as Rubio who has suspended his campaign) has the right to be a player & make his deal.


662 posted on 04/24/2016 5:23:09 AM PDT by pookie18 (7 months until the general election...)
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