Posted on 04/27/2016 10:27:56 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
I have a message for all the Trumpsters. Your behavior and antics in the past couple of months, and the antics of your "savior", The Donald, have made my decision about who to vote for, and who NOT to vote for in November easy.
If your guy is the nominee for the Republican Party, he WILL lose in November, and YOU WILL OWN IT. Because I will NEVER vote for that statist socialist, parasitic, steaming pile of obama.
Now, I've been told that JimRob is banning anyone who states publicly that they will not vote for trump. So be it. I have enjoyed Jim's friendship for many years, and I'll be sorry to lose it, but I WILL NOT surrender my principles that easily. Herewith is an article by Herschel Smith, that encapsulates my thoughts.
I have said for a very long time to my family and others that the experience of parents having and raising children isn’t really about the children. God will handle the children as He sees fit. It’s about the parents, and there are two experiences that test your mettle more than any other: marriage and children. It’s one of God’s way of sanctifying His own, but it has the opposite affect on others.
One reason I care about the election cycle isn’t because I think we can make a difference. Oh, we can in some ways, we can’t in others. We can make a difference in the medical care situation in the country, but we can’t in the global financial system. This discussion is saved for another time. But one thing the individual vote does at one and the same time is affect the soul and show the content of the soul of the voter. It’s a deeply moral act that has eternal consequences for the one who is given stewardship of the vote.
Now let me turn for a moment to a recent commentary by Jonah Goldberg. Sometimes I disagree vehemently with him, but other times he hits on all cylinders. This day the engine was running to perfection on the dynamometer.
This week there have been some cracks in the façade. Trump’s attacks on Heidi Cruz unsettled even Ann Coulter. And his abortion remarks are still sending tremors through the granite foundations of Trump can-do-no-wrong-ism. Joe Scarborough and Breitbart’s John Nolte are talking about what a bad week he’s having and gravely warning Trump to get his act together. As Jim Geraghty has been writing, the problem with such second thoughts is the assumption that something is amiss with Trump or his campaign. This is Trump. This is his campaign. The Trump we see before us is the same Trump. It’s a bit like when Barack Obama said that the Jeremiah Wright he saw denouncing America wasn’t the man he knew. That was nonsense. Obama knew exactly who Wright was, having attended his church for 20 years. It was only when Wright’s act moved to a larger national stage that all of a sudden he became inconvenient to Obama.
The analogy isn’t perfect, of course. But the basic point is the same. The Donald Trump of the last week is the exact same Donald Trump many of us saw a year ago or five years ago. He’s always been full of sh*t. He’s always been a total ignoramus when it comes to public policy, lacking the simple sense of patriotic duty to do his homework on the issues. He’s always been a nasty and boorish cad. He’s always pretended to be a conservative while working on liberal assumptions of what conservatives want to hear.
His “punish the women” comments were of a piece with his refusal to condemn the Klan on CNN. It’s not that he wants to punish women who have abortions — I’d bet he’s paid more abortion bills than he will ever sign — it’s that he thinks that’s what pro-lifers want to hear. It’s not that he’s a Klansman or that the pillowcases at Mara Lago come with eyeholes cut out in advance. It’s that Trump thinks lots of his fans like the Klan and he wants to pander to them. I have heard first-hand stories from people who’ve worked with Trump about how he disparages women’s appearance routinely. That’s who he is. If you’re attacking him because he retweeted a bad picture of Heidi, that’s not you being principled, it’s you getting cold feet. Indeed, I am sure that the same opportunism that has caused so many supposedly principled conservatives to hitch their wagons to Trump is now causing some of them to question their choices, not because Trump has changed but because the climate might be changing around them. By all means, if Trump continues to unravel (a huge if), please abandon Trump. But don’t think for a moment that the rest of us will automatically take your word for it when you say this or that statement changed your mind about the man. He hasn’t changed, your calculations have.
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Like all demagogues, he’s using his lies as a loyalty test for his followers. He’s exploiting his popularity and abusing the devotion of his fans to force them into going along with his fictions, until they are in so deep psychologically, they have no choice but to carry on. It’s an ancient psychological tactic of authoritarians, Mafia dons, and the like: Force your followers into sharing the blame for your misdeeds so that they can’t break ranks.
Jonah is right. He thinks we want to see women who have gotten abortions in the town center in stocks and chains. He’s pandering to the social right, but he missed on this, and he missed badly. His other positions – support for the second amendment, advocacy for closed borders – can only be assumed to be pandering as well.
Not to worry, though. Just about as soon as he said it, he triangulated his position again, to something like abortion laws are already set and we have to leave it that way. Trumps views on abortion aren’t the topic here. Trump is the topic. He is a mirror in which everyone sees what he or she wants to see, its just that the mirror has to be adjusted based on the onlooker and Trump isn’t really as good a triangulator as he is made out to be.
And that brings me to the conservative voters who have already cast their votes for Trump in the primaries heretofore. Do you remember when socialized medicine was the most important thing about the Obama administration, the holy grail of the progressives? It still is.
And yet, you have jettisoned that most important piece of your world view to support a man who sees things far differently than you, who supports socialized medicine, and who has said that the only thing he would change about the current system is to allow it to cross state lines.
Trump has woven you into his deception, his lies, his evil. And when socialized medicine is codified and solidified for you, your children, and your children’s children to the tenth generation of your progeny, when you see that your seed will hate you and this generation for what has been done to the country, it will be far too late.
Open wide, and suck it down. This is what you voted for, whether in the end it’s Hillary or Trump, or some replacement for Hillary. Own it. It’s yours. The Mafia don asked you to pull the trigger and do the deed. It’s no longer about him. Now it’s about you.
ya it is really interesting and enthusiastic and very realistic too
Jim Morrison
Never said you were cheering.
Just pointing out that in my observations, FR and many FReepers appear to have taken quite a different tack this time around with some readily apparent contradictions...
Well, you have a great opportunity to do so. The next President will be appointing a vast majority of Federal Judge positions that are coming up. There are plenty of things that you can do to help getting conservative judges appointed.
But where did the chip manufacturers go? The computer assembly plants? The tablet and smartphone manufacturing? The electronic component manufacturers?
Decades ago I recall seeing chips on circuit boards which were made in El Salvador, in the far East (but not Japan). Why go to a 3rd world country and set up microprocessor manufacturing facilities?
Well, 1-1-1 Trichloroethane (a solvent formerly used as dry cleaning fluid, but used to clean the silicon wafers as a step in manufacturing) is regulated off the domestic industrial landscape for the most part now. Other environmental and Health and safety regulations have pushed out manufacturing, mining (for rare earth elements), mineral processing and refining, and associated jobs, and pushed them to places where the rules are not as strident and huge savings can be had in making the hardware the software runs on. Those places aren't here.
While some regulation, or at least reasonable standards for exposures to potentially toxic materials are a good thing, when those standards are changed and made tougher just to, well, make the standards tougher, that imposes additional costs on business for compliance (equipment, PPE, process changes, facility upgrades, emissions controlls), and can turn profitable industries into fiscal losers.
I won't even mention 'Human Resources', which is something that crawled in in the last 20 years and all the snowflake reasons a company can be sued, nor product liability suits that mandate instruction booklets that tell the user not to use the hairdryer in the shower...to avoid suit.
The 'snowflake' reasons for a guy to lose his job are unreal, too.
So, they packed entire facilities up and went to a more friendly regulatory climate in areas where the rules would be more predictable, sometimes selling to a froeign supplier for pennies on the dollar to take the tax loss and avoid paying huge taxes on the sale.
Rapidly, a previously all-American company becomes multi-national or global, and the loyalties of the BOD tend to head in the same direction, to benefit the bottom line and the stockholders first (that is their job as they see it), all others after, and the Devil take the hindmost--all while facing demand for lower prices and the 'next big thing' from consumers.
We have met that monster, and it is us. Americans want what they buy to be of good quality, they want it fast, and they want it cheap, but ironically, they also want to be paid more money for what they do even as they want to pay less.
At the root of it all, are government agencies regulating everything going into and out of the building, and how it goes in and out, then taxing the crap out of the company for the privilege of being over regulated.
As Ronald Reagan said, "Government is not the solution, Government is the problem."
Thank you for clarifying that you are not a conservative. It is refreshing to have someone here who is not masquerading as one and supporting liberal causes.
If you look beyond the Cruz-Trump interaction, you will find that every tweet about someone Trump does not like or is at odds with begins with a pejorative, from Saudi princes who were business partners to other political candidates.
Add to that 40% of Americans getting their 'news' from twitter and Facebook (the backyard fence of journalism, the one thing lower than tabloids for gossip), and the ease with which something gets retweeted or reposted, the pejorative spread through repetitive use more than substantiation. But if people hear the sky is green and the grass is blue long enough, they will believe it.
Tweets about foreign policy would definitely be interesting under a Trump administration, even if this isn't the best time in our economic history to be engaged in global warfare.
You're completely wrong, Wright.
The only way Trump loses in November is through the damage caused by the GOP establishment, and its sockpuppet, Establishment Ted.
If the Republicans had gotten on board the Trump train a month or so ago, we would have already had the presidency sewn up.
Instead, the Democrats threw Wisconsin to Cruz, to keep the luzer in the race in order to allow themselves time to sort out the Bern situation.
It worked - but I'd bet money that Cruz knew what went on in Wisconsin. That means he's in bed with both the GOP establishment, AND the Democrats (but I repeat myself).
So, the crLuzers WILL OWN IT, if it happens that Trump is unable to prevail.
Oh, BTW - screw that loser Jonah Goldberg.
He writes for that yellow journal rag, the National e- Spew - the fountain of the GOPee Establishment's scummery.
What a nasty sliming piece of filth Jonah is!
And quit putting words in the mouths of other posters.
What words did I put in the mouths of any other poster? Link it please.
Oh drat! There is a period in there. My bad. My apologies.
I am completely consistent. Still don’t like Romney and who he supports. STill wont’ vote for cultists and those who abuse the name of Christ for political gain. Hence, not Cruz.
bkmk
Romney was ultimately the nominee, did you vote for him, or were you a Never Romney? Even JR took to the Romney side at that time, many of us did.
Some people really love cheap labor.
I didn’t vote for him. I also live in a solid red state that has few electoral votes so my vote doesn’t really count.
Instead of opusing out or getting butthurt and taking a lot of abuse for being neverromney, I took a self imposed FR hiatus of 6 months and came back after the election.
I left the GOP over Romney. Trump is the only reason I switched back.
And so then you can definitely understand the Never Trump folks?
I understand them,I never said I didn’t. Although I think they are cutting off their nose to spite their face by leaving FR and pushing it into a zot. I knew it would blow over and it did.
I also that some are hypocrites since they supported Romney in the end. I also think some neverromney folks are hypocrites since they are now supporting Cruz who is in bed with Romney.
You had your reasons against Romney's religion, Mormonism, and look what that gave us.
Never Trumpers are now against the religion of Trump.
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