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Awash in Mexican heroin
Albuquerque Journal ^ | 24 April 2016 | Mike Gallagher

Posted on 04/29/2016 1:43:38 AM PDT by blueplum

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To: Dusty Road

I remember 1962 Carlsbad NM when several high school kids collapsed at the “sock hop” dance at the armory. They were high on “pep pills”.

Even where I live now, the Ozarks, one of the most respected men in town (now deceased) used to sell “pep pills” to the local kids, Arrested, but soon back in his store front business. When he died the funeral home could not contain all the local citizens showing their respect. Almost all of the Chamber of Commerce was there.


41 posted on 04/29/2016 7:42:11 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: USNBandit

I have read that back in the 1880s there was an attempt to get Kansas Farmers to grow opium. It failed because it is so labor intensive, having to cut and collect the pod juice.


42 posted on 04/29/2016 7:47:10 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: cornfedcowboy
You will be on the hell express if you ever dealt with a loved one that struggled with heroin addiction.

That is why we distribute the drugs through clinics - free - and use the money we spend on 'The (lost) war on drugs" on therapy and treatment.

Focus on the users. Take the drug profits away from the criminals.

43 posted on 04/29/2016 8:46:05 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: cornfedcowboy

I was not trying to be humorous. I was merely inferring that these people are killing themselves through their own poor choices.


44 posted on 04/29/2016 8:59:59 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: FatherofFive

“Focus on the users. Take the drug profits away from the criminals.”

Criminals will find other ways to make their ill-gotten gains.


45 posted on 04/29/2016 9:07:26 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: surroundedbyblue
You’re absolutely clueless You favor enslaving people to drug addiction by making it free? Do you have any idea the consequences of that?

You mean the black market and all the killings over this highly profitable industry? Asset forfeiture, corruption of our LEOs?

Bravo to you supporters of chaos.

46 posted on 04/29/2016 9:45:11 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: equaviator
Criminals will find other ways to make their ill-gotten gains.

Yes. But let's not make it so easy for them.

47 posted on 04/29/2016 10:51:41 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Yeah, let’s send the A-10’s back for a little (or a lot) poppy crop eradication, and don’t tell me that it’s not fair to those poor opium poppy farmers in the Middle East..


48 posted on 04/29/2016 10:55:53 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator
Yeah, let’s send the A-10’s back for a little (or a lot) poppy crop eradication, and don’t tell me that it’s not fair to those poor opium poppy farmers in the Middle East..

This is exactly the point. As long as there is money in drugs, there will be criminals and corrupt police and politicians.

Jut take the money out of the drug trade. Criminals and corrupt politicians will disappear. (Or change jobs)

49 posted on 04/29/2016 11:12:09 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: equaviator

in many cases, “mexican heroin” is Islamic heroin:
http://www.banderasnews.com/1101/nr-afghanheroin.htm


50 posted on 04/29/2016 5:45:09 PM PDT by blueplum (March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?)
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To: equaviator
From the people I talk with in HSI and DEA, upwards of 90% of the U.S. supply comes from Mexico and Columbia. I don't know if that is because there is a better market for Asian heroin in Asia and Europe, or it is because the Mexicans play so rough.

Drug trends come and go, but the important untold story is that the Mexicans have all but taken over the supply chain for drugs in this country in the last eight years. Those used to be good paying American criminal jobs. Now the Mexicans take the supply as far as they can get away with, usually only one or two levels above the street dealer.

51 posted on 04/29/2016 5:52:18 PM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: blueplum
I wonder about the article you posted. It seems to promote the premise that the Mexican Cartels are importing heroin to Mexico in exchange for guns. I could see the Cartels trying to increase their supply of heroin, but not in exchange for guns. Guns are another commodity the Cartels have to import. While the numbers pushed by the Obama and Mexican administrations are bs, there are some weapons flowing south across the border due to lax security on the Mexican side. Why would the Mexicans be trading guns they need to Afghanistan which is overflowing with weapons?

Below is a chart showing the seizure percentages and origin for heroin, going back 35 years. It doesn't have recent years, but there would have to be a huge surge in Afghani heroin hitting the U.S. to make a dent in these percentages.


52 posted on 04/29/2016 7:50:58 PM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

ok. let’s look at this closer. What the author is claiming is, after the cartels pay their tab to Turkey, et al, they take their profits (cash/drugs) and buy arms from Albania and thereabouts, using European banks to launder the money. Some of the arms are used by the cartels, most are sold to other countries through illicit channels. (Which could explain how places like Somalia and NameAPlace have crazies that have armed to the teeth over the last ten or so years - and they’re not carrying Remingtons. And could also explain why every urban city is armed to the teeth despite our best efforts - drug dealers have ‘friends’ that are gun dealers). According to your chart, almost all of the heroin coming in, is from Mexico or South America. I can only guess that South America uses the same system as “Mexico”.

“Mexican groups are gaining a presence on the world stage , not only in drug trafficking, but also in the arms smuggling and money laundering schemes of Romania and Bulgaria”
and
“the drug cartels are using weapons manufactured in Asia; it is because of the fluid interchange of drugs and arms.”


53 posted on 04/29/2016 9:30:20 PM PDT by blueplum (March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?)
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54 posted on 05/02/2016 6:39:54 PM PDT by CedarDave (Extremist Muslims want to kill you; moderate Muslims want extremist Muslims to kill you.)
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