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Forest plan renews old fight in northern New Mexico
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | April 15 and May 1, 2016 | T. S. Last

Posted on 05/02/2016 4:56:28 PM PDT by CedarDave

On June 5, 1967, the Alianza Federal de Mercedes – which translates to Federal Land Grant Alliance – led by Reies Lopez Tijerina stormed the courthouse in Tierra Amarilla with the intention of freeing nearly a dozen members of their group who had been arrested two days earlier and to make a citizens’ arrest of prosecuting District Attorney Alfonso Sanchez.

The two-hour confrontation resulted in a prison guard being shot through the cheek and a sheriff’s deputy severely beaten. It ended when the 20 or so raiders escaped with two hostages.

The famous raid was inspired in part by ill will between the land grant activists and the U.S. Forest Service. And, nearly 50 years later, relations between the Forest Service and Hispanic landowners in parts of northern New Mexico remain a tinderbox.

“There is no trust of the Forest Service. There have been too many wrongs,” said Moises Morales, now Rio Arriba County clerk, who was Tijerina’s body guard at the time of the courthouse raid. And his feelings haven’t changed.

“They stole 32 million acres of land without the approval of Congress with the flick of a pen,” he said of what he maintains was the U.S. government’s systematic acquisition of property begun by President Theodore Roosevelt’s administration – property granted to Spanish settlers of the Southwest by the king of Spain hundreds of years before there was an America. “We have a right to this land.”

The latest iteration of this ancient dispute involves a Forest Service process to rewrite its management plan for the entire Carson National Forest in northern New Mexico ...

And part of the rewrite process involves whether to designate more areas as wilderness – which could put the land off-limits to land-grant heirs’ traditional uses ...

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; forestservice; land; landgrant; newyork; trump
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Next year will be the 50th anniversary of that raid. But like the standoff in Bunkerville, Nev., in 2014 over grazing on federal land and the occupation of a national wildlife refuge in Harney County, Ore., earlier this year, there is very strong opposition by ranchers and Forest Service users to Federal government acquisition of more land, placement of existing federal land into a wilderness designation, or additional use restrictions.

For those who might like to learn more about the raid and conflicts that still remain to this day, below are two link that I recommend reading.

“Reies López Tijerina and the Tierra Amarilla Courthouse Raid”

JUNE 5, 1967 The Courthouse Raid Recalled

1 posted on 05/02/2016 4:56:28 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

Tierra o Muerte (Land or Death) sign outside of Tierra Amarilla. (Einar Einarsson Kvaran/Wikimedia)
2 posted on 05/02/2016 4:59:44 PM PDT by CedarDave (Extremist Muslims want to kill you; moderate Muslims want extremist Muslims to kill you.)
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To: CedarDave

Tijerina pulled up at Bode’s Store in Abiquiu as my Dad and I were about to leave. Dad had met him before and called him over to the pickup and as Tijerina walked over, Dad put his .44 Magnum on the dashboard for him to see and asked “Reyes, do you have a problem you want to discuss with me?” “No, nothing at all” was the reply.


3 posted on 05/02/2016 5:14:07 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: CedarDave

I remember when this took place, the the Alianza Federal de Mercedes. Once while driving through there I saw a graffiti on the back of a billboard, “Tierra O Muerte!” I knew what it meant.

Tierra Amarilla and Chama have grown and new business is coming in. It might not be a good idea to run them off. As a Hispanic from the area said many years ago, only the old still dream of having a “Ranchero” there.

Interesting point, when I lived at Farmington, I met a man who had surveyed the area many years before. He said the local Hispanics wanted the survey, and he found many of the large Ranch owners had let their fences stray as much as 100 yards into the old Rio Arriba Land Grant areas.


4 posted on 05/02/2016 5:19:24 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: CedarDave

***...property granted to Spanish settlers of the Southwest by the king of Spain hundreds of years before there was an America.

But the Indians reclaimed the land in 1680 and killed the Spanish in that area!


5 posted on 05/02/2016 5:22:37 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I visited Chama in 1995 and was amazed to see steam locomotives hauling freight. I felt like I had gone through a time warp back to the 1920’s.


6 posted on 05/02/2016 5:23:08 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

That is the Cumbres and Toltec RR. Their biggest source of revenue is tourism on the line from Chama to Antonito, CO.


7 posted on 05/02/2016 5:28:30 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; laplata

Great stuff, thanks for posting. The real New Mexico is much better than what folks want to dress it up as... a bit rough at times, but all the better for it.


8 posted on 05/02/2016 5:29:33 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: CedarDave; jazusamo; Flycatcher

Ted Turner is proud to announce luxury , eco-lodging for his rich Hollywood pals , to fly in on their private jets ...

Vermejo Park Ranch is located in northern New Mexico and southern Colorado and spans over 590,000-acres

http://vermejoparkranch.com/

With private access to .. half million acres of ecologically diverse wildlands surrounding Truth or Consequences ..

http://sierragrandelodge.com/


9 posted on 05/02/2016 5:32:00 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

“The real New Mexico is much better than what folks want to dress it up as... a bit rough at times, but all the better for it”.

Very well said. Thanks.

Now I need a flat red chile enchilada with a fried egg on top and enjoy the smell of a Pinon fire.


10 posted on 05/02/2016 5:35:40 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: LegendHasIt; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; CougarGA7; ...

NM list PING!

I may not PING for all New Mexico articles. To see New Mexico articles by topic click here: New Mexico Topics

To see NM articles by keyword, click here: New Mexico Keywords

To see the NM Message Page, click here: New Mexico Messages

(The NM list is available on my FR homepage for anyone to use. Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)
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11 posted on 05/02/2016 5:35:50 PM PDT by CedarDave (Extremist Muslims want to kill you; moderate Muslims want extremist Muslims to kill you.)
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The courthouse event sounds like the inspiration for the storyline of the Clint Eastwood/Robert Duvall movie, Joe Kidd.


12 posted on 05/02/2016 5:41:31 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: george76

My father used to lease land on the CO side directly north of Vermejo from CF &I. At the time, their elk herd would move into our area and we would have some good hunting.

My first wife and I had our honeymoon at Vermejo to fish on several of the several lakes located above the lodges. Ole Ted ran all the beef cows off and inserted his bison.

Beautiful place.


13 posted on 05/02/2016 5:46:10 PM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: george76
Vermejo Park Ranch is located in northern New Mexico and southern Colorado and spans over 590,000-acres

A CEO I know spent time there a couple of years ago.
When he told me Td Turner owned it, and how much area it occupied , I looked it up and was surprised, by the massive area.

It may be the largest privately owned acreage in this country.-Tom

14 posted on 05/02/2016 5:47:33 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: laplata

My family and I spent the night in Tierra Amarilla summer of 1990 waiting for a local mechanic to return to his shop...he lived up in the hills...

Friendly kind people that we met...we were tourists from Tejas...( ; )

I didn’t tell my wife their 1967 history until we drove through down town and observed the new buildings

on our way out of town.

I believe they should have control and use of the communal property given to the community by the Spanish land grants.


15 posted on 05/02/2016 5:50:28 PM PDT by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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To: Capt. Tom

It used to be much larger back when the Penz Oil Co owned it. In exchange for some tax savings, they gave up almost 500 K acres to the state of New Mexico, if my memory serves me.


16 posted on 05/02/2016 5:51:38 PM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: DavidLSpud

It’s very complicated.


17 posted on 05/02/2016 5:53:08 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: CedarDave

I had an elk depredation hunt in that area a year ago. They seemed to enjoy making up lies with a lot of detail to send us on a wild goose chase. No cooperation at all, even they are required to get landowner tags. We got 3 for 3 in spite of their efforts.


18 posted on 05/02/2016 6:09:38 PM PDT by culper jr (We need to stop our modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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To: Capt. Tom

Turner has amassed 2 million acres over the past two decades to become the largest private landowner in the country

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1931858/posts


19 posted on 05/02/2016 6:17:52 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Fiji Hill
I visited Chama in 1995 and was amazed to see steam locomotives hauling freight. I felt like I had gone through a time warp back to the 1920’s.

Here is short video you might enjoy watching:
Cumbres & Toltec - Three Engine Freight Train

20 posted on 05/02/2016 6:21:16 PM PDT by CedarDave (Extremist Muslims want to kill you; moderate Muslims want extremist Muslims to kill you.)
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