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CRuz and Obama just screwed millions of us out of Social Security (Vanity)
FR, CNBC, Rollcall ^ | May 3, 2016 | AuntB Vanity

Posted on 05/03/2016 10:59:54 AM PDT by AuntB

TED CRUZ just screwed YOU out of your Social Security income...at least he did for me! I was getting widow benefits...but no more! Obama was happy to sign it!

[snip]Politicians describe Social Security as "the third rail," meaning that enacting any benefit cuts will kill them politically. But this is precisely what they voted to do under the Bipartisan Budget Bill of 2015. Spouses as well as divorced spouses (who were married for 10 or more years) who reached 62 by Jan. 2 can still collect just their spousal or divorced spousal benefit between 66 and 70 and then take their own retirement benefit at 70. (there are many other cuts as well!)

TED CRUZ VOTED FOR THIS Cruz (R-TX), Yea

Rand Paul voted against it. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), also voted Nay

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/02/social-security-why-congress-is-messing-with-your-benefits-commentary.html

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?&congress=114&session=1&vote=00193


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Indiana; US: Ohio; US: Texas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2016election; alabama; cruz; election2016; h1b; jeffsessions; johnkasich; obamatrade; ohio; sessions; socialsecurity; tedcruz; texas
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To: knarf

“Some widows could double dip .. their dead spouse’s SS and their own from their own working contributions and now you can just get the higher of the two”

No, I get only my dead husbands. Widow benefits get one or the other, the higher. Now, with this new law, I will only be eligible for mine.

Couples have been able to double up, but that will stop.


21 posted on 05/03/2016 11:17:00 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: AuntB

Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Ayotte (R-NH), Yea
Baldwin (D-WI), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Bennet (D-CO), Yea
Blumenthal (D-CT), Nay
Blunt (R-MO), Yea
Booker (D-NJ), Nay
Boozman (R-AR), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Capito (R-WV), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Nay
Cassidy (R-LA), Yea
Coats (R-IN), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Nay
Coons (D-DE), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Cotton (R-AR), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Cruz (R-TX), Yea
Daines (R-MT), Yea
Donnelly (D-IN), Nay
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Enzi (R-WY), Not Voting
Ernst (R-IA), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Fischer (R-NE), Yea
Flake (R-AZ), Yea
Franken (D-MN), Nay
Gardner (R-CO), Yea
Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Heinrich (D-NM), Nay
Heitkamp (D-ND), Yea
Heller (R-NV), Yea
Hirono (D-HI), Nay
Hoeven (R-ND), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johnson (R-WI), Yea
Kaine (D-VA), Yea
King (I-ME), Nay
Kirk (R-IL), Yea
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Lankford (R-OK), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Lee (R-UT), Nay
Manchin (D-WV), Nay
Markey (D-MA), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Merkley (D-OR), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay
Moran (R-KS), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murphy (D-CT), Nay
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Paul (R-KY), Nay
Perdue (R-GA), Yea
Peters (D-MI), Nay
Portman (R-OH), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Risch (R-ID), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rounds (R-SD), Yea
Rubio (R-FL), Yea
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Sasse (R-NE), Yea
Schatz (D-HI), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Scott (R-SC), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Sullivan (R-AK), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Tillis (R-NC), Yea
Toomey (R-PA), Yea
Udall (D-NM), Nay
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Warner (D-VA), Yea
Warren (D-MA), Nay
Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Yea


22 posted on 05/03/2016 11:17:23 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: G Larry

Well, he voted for it. I consider that a “role”.

He still is kind of a Senator, you know, though he doesn’t show up much.


23 posted on 05/03/2016 11:19:06 AM PDT by dforest (Ted took your money and is laughing all the way to Goldman Sachs)
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To: AuntB
Actually the bill cut out certain means to work the SS system to obtain highter benefits. Kind of like loopholes.

There is still a Widow's benefit.

24 posted on 05/03/2016 11:19:33 AM PDT by cynicalman
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To: AuntB

No they just react when a negative about Cruz is presented.


25 posted on 05/03/2016 11:20:00 AM PDT by dforest (Ted took your money and is laughing all the way to Goldman Sachs)
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To: AuntB

Bkmrk.


26 posted on 05/03/2016 11:20:45 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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To: goodwithagun

It allows widows when they are 66 to start collecting 1/2 of their deceased spouse’s SS for 4 years before kicking their own on, which in many households is considerably less than the husband’s. Must make final decision, keep 1/2 spouse or activate your own at age 70.


27 posted on 05/03/2016 11:21:29 AM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: Night Hides Not; All

” So how did your Senators vote? And why dredge up a vote that was taken nearly a year ago? Methinks your purpose was merely to take a shot at Cruz.

SS is on the fast track to insolvency, and this is merely trimming around the edges. “

My senators are not LYING their asses of to con YOU to make this clown president.

And YES, that is EXACTLY why I posted it.

LYIN’ TED needs exposed. Just because you don’t want to see it, won’t make it so.

The vote was NOVEMBER...NOT a year ago! But YOU knew that.

Nov. 2, 2015 Executive Signed
Oct. 29, 2015 Senate Concurrence Vote Passed

This does NOT ‘cut around the DAMN edges’...it take 2/3rds of my income and leaves me in poverty....where I’ll get food stamps..ALL that crap and YOU can pay for it!

I was SICK the last 10 years my ss was figured, so the first 40 years of my work mean virtually NOTHING.

Thanks to the TWO FOREIGN BORN HARVARD LAWYERS.


28 posted on 05/03/2016 11:22:07 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: AuntB

So we don’t want to make any cuts in the size of government?


29 posted on 05/03/2016 11:22:45 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Abosolutely!

Sessions was bright enough and FAIR enough to vote against this mess.


30 posted on 05/03/2016 11:22:48 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: AuntB

Cruz passed the budget all by himself, he’s magic that way.


31 posted on 05/03/2016 11:23:08 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: DungeonMaster

Everybody wants to cut government, until it affects them personally.


32 posted on 05/03/2016 11:24:38 AM PDT by goodwithagun (March 3, 2016: The date FReepers justified the "goodness" of Planned Parenthood.)
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To: DungeonMaster

“So we don’t want to make any cuts in the size of government?”

YOUR words, not mine..ya didn’t read it did you?

” Some cuts, I can live with and welcome...but this is over the top. “

I’ve had all I can take of you Cruzers today. Lie away, just like your good CHRISTIAN leader! SO SAD


33 posted on 05/03/2016 11:24:42 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: AuntB

So here’s my take on the changes, that were passed last year with very little fanfare or discussion.

IT USED TO BE, that a married couple could do a procedure called in shorthand, “file and suspend.” This is no longer available.

The trick was that if (for assumptions let’s say the husband was the higher earner of the two) the husband took his benefits early then his wife could start taking her SPOUSAL benefit at the time the husband took his benefit. THEN, the husband could SUSPEND his benefit and go back to accruing further benefits, while the WIFE CONTINUED to take the spousal benefits, which was normally HALF the husband’s original benefit.

Over the course of several years then this spousal benefit could add up to quite a lot. But now you can’t do this rather cute trick anymore. It should be noted that FEW people knew that this gambit existed, so it was a relatively rare thing to do, but it did work.


34 posted on 05/03/2016 11:25:50 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: knarf; freepertoo
That's basically it. They closed a "loophole"

Sucks to be us.

35 posted on 05/03/2016 11:30:08 AM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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To: G Larry
Isn't there a FR rule about changing headlines?

G, Larry, give it a rest! ;-)

36 posted on 05/03/2016 11:30:17 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: AuntB

Am I the only one here that doesn’t qualify for social security personally?
I have not worked enough quarters.
My husband receives social security.
If my husband died today, I have no idea what I would do.
I am in my early 50’s.


37 posted on 05/03/2016 11:38:07 AM PDT by Danette
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To: All; Albion Wilde; Amntn; dragnet2; DoughtyOne; Liz

This budget bill was BAD, BAD, BAD! Must read!
HR 1314 - Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015 -

Jeff Sessions Attacks Budget Deal With ‘Bricks of Truth’

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/29/jeff-sessions-attacks-budget-deal-bricks-truth/

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
80%
tore into the congressional budget deal on the Senate floor, arguing it is being jammed through without sufficient acknowledgment of its serious flaws.

“Once again, a massive deal, crafted behind closed doors, is being rushed through Congress under a threat of panic,” he said. “The Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015 serves as a reminder that the most important and controversial legislation is still being drafted in secret, with little or no input from the members of this chamber.”

Pointing to what he called “bricks of truth,” Sessions argued his opposition to the bill, calling for more time to consider the legislation and urging that it not be hastily passed.

“At its core, this deal with President Obama provides what President Obama has demanded throughout,” Sessions, a former budget committee chairman, said.

Namely, he pointed to the increase in federal spending caps for two years and the elimination of the current debt limit until March of 2017.

“This is a covert, a clever way of raising the debt ceiling without having to engage in a real discussion of Washington’s runaway spending problem,” he said. “It ensures that no further serious conversation about our debt course or any corresponding action to alter it will take place.”

Additionally, Sessions took issue with what he said is the cementing of a precedent to tether increases in defense spending with domestic spending.

“How silly is this? What possible logical argument can you make for this?” he said, calling it “deeply troubling.”

Sessions also took aim at the accounting “gimmicks” in the bill that he earlier decried in a joint statement with
Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL)
82%
Wednesday: The use of “tricks” like double-counting for savings and raiding the Social Security Trust fund to bolster the disability program.

“We’re losing momentum,” he said. “Several years ago we were in serious discussions about the dangers we face financially, and that has been eroded.”

The Alabamian stressed the need for more time, saying there is no need to pass the bill immediately.

“There’s no crisis that requires us to pass it today,” he said. “There are a number of interim steps we could take to allow this bill to be out there for the members to actually study it, to offer amendments on it, and maybe improve it and for the America people to understand just what it is the members of Congress are doing to their Social Security and the fiscal debt of America.”

Sessions pointed to the GOPs ability to negotiate spending reforms with Obama in the 2011 debt limit deal even with a smaller majority in the House and no majority in the Senate.

“And now there are 54 Republicans in the chamber and the House has a huge majority. So I think we can do better and I don’t think this should be rushed through the Congress and I would object to its passage,” he concluded.


38 posted on 05/03/2016 11:38:15 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: Danette

uh...you would get survivor benefits and when you reach 65 you would get half of what your husband was entitled to...


39 posted on 05/03/2016 11:40:22 AM PDT by ScholarWarrior
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To: AuntB

They had to stop some of the SS scams, it is getting bankrupt.


40 posted on 05/03/2016 11:41:12 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Giggles the pig for POTUS - 2016)
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