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It turns out that educators at truly religious colleges think more clearly too.
1 posted on 05/17/2016 8:27:48 AM PDT by Academiadotorg
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To: Academiadotorg

Call a spade a spade. What “secularize” actually means to those who hold religion dear. It means “renounce your religion.”


2 posted on 05/17/2016 8:30:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Academiadotorg

Yes, there will be pressures to secularize.

And, marriage will be a fault line within religious denominations., As of today, mainstream religions do not recognize homosexual marriage, but secular law and many individual members of these denominations are in favor of homosexual marriage.

Recently a number of Methodist clergy staged a demonstration of being gay, and performed a same sex marriage in one of their churches.

Marriage could cause some schisms within major denominations in the years ahead.


3 posted on 05/17/2016 8:33:30 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Academiadotorg
Time for them all to do what Hilldale College in Michigan did:

  1. Divorce themselves completely from federal funding.
  2. Line up their own group of lenders.

Hillsdale kids actually pay lower rates of interest on their student loans than those in the federal program because they give their kids a real education, don't offer fluff degrees and, as a result, their graduates get gainful employment and have a minuscule default rate.

4 posted on 05/17/2016 8:35:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Academiadotorg

Hillsdale College remains unaffected by this nonsense because they don’t accept even a single penny of Federal money.


5 posted on 05/17/2016 8:39:51 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Academiadotorg

Then do like Hillsdale and Grove City, and do NOT take Federal money.


7 posted on 05/17/2016 9:07:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Academiadotorg

Harvard, Yale, Princeton, et al, were once more religious than today’s religious schools.

Now that they have been completely secularized, the left is not satisfied. They want to crush all dissent.

The left is a political Borg.


8 posted on 05/17/2016 9:08:16 AM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: Academiadotorg

The government will now tell you what religious beliefs are acceptable.

Government is your Supreme Being now.


9 posted on 05/17/2016 9:08:51 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns.)
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To: Academiadotorg

Before the Supreme Court decision on same sex marriage were universities punished for being pro same sex marriage?

I didn’t think so.

This is government persecution.


10 posted on 05/17/2016 9:18:28 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Academiadotorg; All
”… if they seek waivers that allow them to teach traditional values of marriage and sexuality without being stripped of grants or funding [emphasis added]."

With all due respect Academiadotorg, please note the following.

Regarding federal grants and funding for INTRAstate schooling purposes, Thomas Jefferson had indicated the states would first need to delegate to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for such a purpose, something that the states have never done.

“The great mass of the articles on which impost is paid is foreign luxuries, purchased by those only who are rich enough to afford themselves the use of them. Their patriotism would certainly prefer its continuance and application to the great purposes of the public education, roads, rivers, canals, and such other objects of public improvement as it may be thought proper to add to the constitutional enumeration of federal powers [emphasis added].” —Thomas Jefferson: 6th Annual Message, 1806.

In fact, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that Congress is prohibited from appropriating taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue that Congress cannot justify under its Article I, Section 8-limited powers, intrastate schooling in this example not listed among those powers.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Also consider that the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called LGBT “rights.”

So corrupt Congress has not only been stealing state revenues in the form of unconstitutional federal taxes, revenues that the states could be using for schooling purposes without federal government interference, but also consider the following.

Congress is also wrongly allowing the lawless Obama Administration to get away with interfering with state sovereignty by harassing intrastate schools to comply with LGBT “rights,” fictitious rights that the feds have no constitutional authority to strengthen. The corrupt Washington cartel is probably promoting politically correct LGBT rights in order to win votes from low-information voters.

What a mess! :^(

Remember in November !

When patriots elect Trump they also need to elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will work within its Section 8-limited powers to support the new president, including putting a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes and likewise unconstitutional federal interference in state affairs, intrastate education in this example.

Also consider that such a Congress would probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

13 posted on 05/17/2016 11:55:33 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Academiadotorg

bump


15 posted on 05/17/2016 1:51:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: Academiadotorg

The ‘shame” list is nothing more than left wing school yard name calling and bullying.


16 posted on 05/17/2016 2:07:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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