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The Lessons of the Littoral Combat Ship
Defense One ^ | may 15th | Lawrence Korb

Posted on 05/17/2016 1:14:06 PM PDT by Syncopated

From its inception, the Littoral Combat Ship, or LCS, has been one of the Navy’s most controversial procurement programs. Questions have been continuously raised about its costs, survivability, lethality, and range limitations.

(Excerpt) Read more at defenseone.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: lcs; littoralcombatship; usnavy
TL;DR: Big budget military project gets sidetracked by mission creep and the gilded toilet seats common with Pentagon procurement.
1 posted on 05/17/2016 1:14:06 PM PDT by Syncopated
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To: Syncopated

“The second major mistake was assuming that a ship could not only be a minesweeper, but also have anti-submarine warfare, surface combat, and amphibious capabilities.”

Meaning the LCS was supposed to be the naval version of the F-35: a jack of all trades and a master of none.


2 posted on 05/17/2016 1:19:13 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: MeganC

Watch or read, The Pentagon Wars. Happened to the Bradley Fighting Vehicle too. Cost a fortune to fix...but now we’re left with one of the best multirole vehicles in the world.


3 posted on 05/17/2016 1:22:55 PM PDT by Syncopated
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To: Syncopated

In Defense Acquisition there are no “lessons” as long as congress drives the design and subcontractor participation.
As long as the requirements remain undetermined at the time of contract award.
As long as approved programs become a Christmas tree on which to hang benefits for an endless list of congressional districts.

At the front end of a program the budget and the schedule are constrained by politics.
Once the program is approved the budget and schedule are blown up by politics.


4 posted on 05/17/2016 1:25:41 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: Syncopated

Ike tried to warn us.


5 posted on 05/17/2016 1:28:02 PM PDT by buckalfa (I am feeling much better now.)
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To: MeganC

Not a fair description of either platform. Both are absolute masters of ass-raping the taxpayer.


6 posted on 05/17/2016 1:31:07 PM PDT by Trod Upon (To be labelled "far-right" by modern journalists, one need do no more than NOT be far-left.)
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To: Trod Upon

Okay, that too!!


7 posted on 05/17/2016 1:37:44 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Syncopated

Don’t invest in weapons systems programs that are favors for political donors!!


8 posted on 05/17/2016 1:44:39 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: MeganC

Col. Robert Laurel Smith: In summation, what you have before you is...

Sgt. Fanning: A troop transport that can’t carry troops, a reconnaissance vehicle that’s too conspicuous to do reconnaissance...

Lt. Colonel James Burton: And a quasi-tank that has less armor than a snow-blower, but carries enough ammo to take out half of D.C. THIS is what we’re building?


9 posted on 05/17/2016 1:49:29 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Keep out of our bathrooms)
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To: MeganC

It is a wonderful vessel and performs well except the active combat part. These things will go down quickly.


10 posted on 05/17/2016 1:59:52 PM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali soli o feccia.)
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Missile technology has so quickly surpassed platforms that the LCS in combat will become a flaming datum in minutes. So will the CVN.


11 posted on 05/17/2016 2:15:46 PM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: Syncopated

A rotten flop at sea, but a nice jobs program for Manitowoc, WI shipbuilders and another builder down on the Gulf.


12 posted on 05/17/2016 2:19:05 PM PDT by RicocheT (Only a few prefer liberty--the majority seek nothing more than fair masters. Sallust, Histories)
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The LCS had to abandon hard learned USN damage control standards. It is outgunned by a tank sitting on the beach. it is dog meat for any surface opponent. It is child’s play for a sub. And its supposedly ‘littoral’, but has no better shallow water performance than a WWII destroyer.

It, like the F-35, is designed to enrich contractors and officers careers. The weakest warship we have ever floated. A PT boat literally had more firepower.


13 posted on 05/17/2016 2:19:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: Syncopated

Whatta bout the Navy F-35?


14 posted on 05/17/2016 2:21:02 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Live Free or Die.)
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To: DesertRhino

It’s a yacht garage...


15 posted on 05/17/2016 2:22:07 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Live Free or Die.)
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To: pabianice

It’s main adversary will cheap swarming fast boats.


16 posted on 05/17/2016 2:23:35 PM PDT by Gaffer
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"Meaning the LCS was supposed to be the naval version of the F-35"

Now if we could only build some sort of contraption that can float, fly, and drive we could save BILLIONS I tell you!

17 posted on 05/17/2016 2:26:35 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Supercar!

Some of the best actors ever.


18 posted on 05/17/2016 2:30:44 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Give it orbital capability an now we’d be talking!


19 posted on 05/17/2016 2:32:05 PM PDT by null and void ("when authority began inspiring contempt, it had stopped being authority" ~ H. Beam Piper)
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