Posted on 05/18/2016 3:04:00 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
He’s NOT senile....he is a LEFTIST. which is WORSE!
So WHo put the Bible together, if not the CATHOLIC MONKS??
No the Catholics gave added authority to apocryphal books to deal with Luther. Henry VIII had nothing to do with it.
The Bible as we know it, appears by he middle of the 2nd century (150 AD) before there was a Catholic church as it exist today.
The Catholic Church did discourage people from reading the Bible and told them to rely upon Church teaching. You can’t really argue with that. It did happen.
I am not a girl
There was no RCC church in 150 AD, at least not as it exist today. That is why you see the early Church councils called to discuss issues and promulgate doctrine. There was no primacy of the Roman Bishop.
If anything the RCC is an off shoot of early Eastern Orthodox Church.
You really are ignorant....I feel for you. The Catholic Church and the Popes are from Christ Himself......I will pray for your ignorance and stubborness.
HELOO.....the CHRISTIAN CHURCH is from 33 AD!! And it’s lineage can be traced thru the ages in the CATHOLIC CHURCH!!! You Protestants are a GAS!!
I never mind people praying for me but look into actual Church history as well. Pray that your own understanding will be enlightened. Look up John Wycliff and ask - Did the RCC supress the reading of the Bible?
You really are ignorant and MISINFORMED, but I find that in all the Catholic Hating Protestant sects, so you are certainly not alone.
Damn. You Catholics sure have a royal POS for a pontiff.
Sad.
John Wycliffe was a 14th Century Catholic DISSENT!!! HELLO....14th CENTURY!!!! geesh.....we had 1300 YEAR of Christianity under our belts and Wycliffe thinks he knows better.....the ARROGANCE!
Dhimmi dummy.
The Orthodox were wise beyond their years when they let the Patriarch of Rome go his own, lonesome way in A.D. 1054.
What a jerk
You’re nuts.
Get the nets!
Catholics, have you had enough yet?
“Can’t wait to see how catholics defend this. Popping the popcorn.”
His followers will. They will claim that this has been taken out of context, or that he has a special reason for saying it (that we don’t yet know or understand but will later), or say that at least he is not the Satan, etc. Whatever he says or do, some will defend and follow him to the end.
First, no surviving cardinal from the 1978 conclaves was still of voting age (under 80) in 2013, 35 years later. The resigning Pope Benedict XVI (the former Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger then 86 years old) did not participate in Conclave 2013.
That means that each and every voting cardinal of 2013 was appointed by John Paul II or Benedict XVI.
Do not believe media propaganda about John Paul I. He had a sunny disposition and a sunny smile but he was the classic "fine Roman hand", essentially an iron fist in a velvet glove. Study his handling of pervasive theft of Church funds by priests and officials of the Patriarchate of Venice. He played possum for three years while his investigators compiled the evidence. He played the role of amiable dunce. Then he sprung by ordering each and every priest of the Patriarchate to show up one morning at the cathedral, locked the doors, read the riot act with details of the thefts, naming names, levying massive penalties and demanding full restitution. He was also a lifelong disciple of the magnificent Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani, who chaired the Holy Office of the Inquisition under Pope Pius XII. He had had a falling out with Cardinal Ottaviani only when Ottaviani publicly advised disobedience to the persistently liberalizing papacies of John XXIII and Paul VI. Luciani objected on the basis of preserving papal authority intact and not to support liberalism in any form.
The funeral Mass of Paul VI was celebrated by the senior member of the College of Cardinals, Carlo Cardinal Confalonieri who had been a Vatican official of high rank since World War I. Confalonieri had a beatific smile on his face suggesting his joy at consigning Paul VI to the grave. Paul VI had promulgated a prohibition against cardinals over eighty voting in conclave, apparently trying to rig the election of a "progressive" successor. Confalonieri, Ottaviani and Amleto Cardinal Cicognani, barred from conclave, went to the airport, greeted each cardinal arriving for conclave, gave them an earful of what had transpired under John XXIII and Paul VI, and successfully urged the election of Albino Cardinal Luciani to be the new sheriff in town to clean up the mess.
John Paul I was murdered although the Vatican will never admit such things. Take that to the bank. Claire Sterling, then of Reader's Digest, wrote a compelling account of the evidence of the murder. Probable means: poisoning of his morning coffee.
When the cardinals reconvened in conclave after John Paul I's sudden death, it was no more Mr. Nice Cardinal. Apparently convinced that John Paul I had been sound enough of belief but a bit naive in trusting the household staff, they next went for Karol Cardinal Wojtlywa who had survived the nazis as an active participant in the underground (whose then girlfriend had her brains blown out by the Gestapo/he apparently never dated again thereafter but began studies for the priesthood) and made a career of challenging the communists as a very public church official. His candidacy was advanced by a truly grand cardinal Stefan Cardinal Wyszinski who had been Wotlywa's bishop when he was a young priest but had not gotten along with him. They became quite close in later years.
As soon as he was elected John Paul II summarily fired the entire household staff on the basis that he wanted a staff entirely comprised of people fluent in Polish (whom he brought in from Poland) including caretakers, kitchen staff, servants and everyone else. Bear in mind that such staff turnover was entirely unprecedented and that Pope St. John Paul II was quite fluent in 11 languages including Italian. Draw your own conclusion. John Paul I's physicians had given him a clean bill of health as he headed into conclave, a heart condition of ten years earlier having been successfully resolved.
In short, Francis and John Paul I could not have been more different and, though I have no explanation as to why cardinals appointed by Pope Saint John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI would have elected Bergoglio, your theory as to what the cardinals THOUGHT they had elected in John Paul I is simply not supported by known fact. Whatever their motives may have been, we are not likely to ever know. It may well be that they thought Bergoglio to have co-operated with the Argentine junta in the "dirty war" in which many communists "disappeared." Upon Bergoglio's election, the liberals had their panties in a twist over the possibility that he was an Argentine fascist. Wrong call on their part but that does not mean that the cardinals did not believe it.
Jorge Cardinal Bergoglio was rumored to be the second place finisher at the 2005 conclave that elected Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger as Benedict XVI. He was a apparently backed then and later by would be perpetrators of a palace coup including the likes of Walter Cardinal Kaspar and several aging European radicals and some like Madariaga of Honduras as well. They had hoped to elect Carlo Maria Martini, a left wing Jesuit of quite heterodox views who was Archbishop of Milan for 23 years until his death in 2002. They have been dying off or aging out but not soon enough to prevent Bergoglio's election. What they could not do was roll back his advanced age. He admits that his papacy will be short. Like Obama, he seems determined to do as much damage to tradition, to papal authority, to the Curia as he can in the short time available to him.
May there be another conclave SOON and may God send us a young, vigorous, genuinely CATHOLIC pope ASAP.
May God bless you and yours!
Jesus, asked if He was King of the Jews, answered: “My Kingdom is not of this world.” It was a charge against him that he was plotting to overthrow Roman rule of the Holy Land. It was a false charge. He was not a politician.
Who is this ?
The Anti-Pope?
See #97. That’s how.
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