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Trump: GOP will become 'worker's party' under me
Politico ^ | 05/26/16 | Nick Glass

Posted on 05/26/2016 9:41:19 AM PDT by Abiotic

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To: TontoKowalski

Bush proposed a voluntary savings account (think 401k) alternative to SS. He got nailed, so he dropped the conversation.


61 posted on 05/26/2016 10:55:09 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Girlene

Of course I am supporting and voting for Trump.

Give your insecure defensiveness a rest.


62 posted on 05/26/2016 10:55:29 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: TontoKowalski
Their "pay-in" just evaporated into the system, rather than it being part of their estates.

Apparently no matter when in the month you die, the las paycheck for that month goes back or it did years ago.

63 posted on 05/26/2016 10:55:54 AM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: TontoKowalski

I agree. Privatize for those 50 or 55 and under. They would benefit the most. Older people would stay under the current system. The younger ones would reap far more than they would under Soc. Sec.


64 posted on 05/26/2016 10:55:56 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: nickcarraway

Not Marxist if Trump said it. Workers unite! Destroy the bourgeois. Proletariat power!


65 posted on 05/26/2016 10:56:10 AM PDT by sagar
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To: DannyTN

Yup, and the two dimensional, linear thinkers here don’t get it.


66 posted on 05/26/2016 10:57:42 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: NohSpinZone

No foolin’ Don’t you think Trump knows that? It’s strategy. Figure it out.


67 posted on 05/26/2016 10:59:23 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Fast Ed97
. . . yet on the other hand the government apparently has unlimited funds to prosecute wars in the middle east and maintain bases around the globe-most average Americans are disgusted.

Add in import an unlimited number of refugees from Muslim $#*+hole countries and wink-nod at those from elsewhere who come in to take what few new jobs get created.

They are twin issues. Most people instinctively understand that we cannot continue to be the policeman of the world just as we can't continue to be the boardinghouse of the world.

Somalia is a prime example: the population density of Colorado with a climate like California. 2000 miles of coastline astride one of the busiest trade routes in the world. Yet they continue to export people to the United States. Why?

And don't even get me started on Mexico, which has the population density of Tennessee.

68 posted on 05/26/2016 11:05:08 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Cobra64

A note from history.
Samuel Gompers/AFofL, understood what Disraeli in Britain and Von Bismarck in Germany, had achieved politically. He was a personal friend and a confidant of Teddy Roosevelt and both perceived non-socialist Labor as a natural R constituency. They tried to effect this political realignment but Taft another establishment jackass, wouldn’t have it. This was the crux of the Bull Moose insurgency in 1912; a monumental opportunity that was missed and a fateful turn made.


69 posted on 05/26/2016 11:12:23 AM PDT by Arrian (How predictab)
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To: dfwgator; ifinnegan

You didn’t have to wait long.


70 posted on 05/26/2016 11:23:58 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: meadsjn
>>White-collar criminals (the GOP-e) are not numerous enough to win elections.

Well except there was this one time, at band camp, when, with the assistance from their Ambassador to the Netherlands, somebody managed to blow a ginormous electorial bubble up America's wherever...


"Oops"
 
 
 
http://www.amazon.com/Jeb-Bush-Crime-Family-American/dp/1510706798

71 posted on 05/26/2016 11:25:03 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: dp0622
the retirement age has to be raised

No, it doesn't (You want 75-year-olds navigating 18-wheelers down the same highway where you drive?), and it's a distraction from the real problem.

It all boils down to two trend lines:

This ends in one of two ways: a socialist upheaval that would make Bernie Sanders look like Milton Friedman, or some serious reform to insure that people who create wealth don't have it siphoned out of their pockets by people whose only talent is shell-gaming.

72 posted on 05/26/2016 11:25:34 AM PDT by Cyberman
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To: Abiotic

*Trump reiterated that cutting Social Security would be a “big mistake” for the GOP, remarking that “[c]utting it the wrong way is a big mistake, and even cutting it [at all].”*

very,cleverly stated. bravo


73 posted on 05/26/2016 11:33:30 AM PDT by SteveinSATX (Anti-liberalism 24/7)
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To: dp0622

“...reminds me of how the lotto was going to be for education only.”

I live in GA, and our lottery IS only for education.

Since 1993 it has funded the HOPE Scholarship, which has allowed any student that graduated from high school with at least a 3.0 to have free tuition at any state college.

I know what you are saying is true for most states, but Georgia is an example showing it doesn’t have to be that way.


74 posted on 05/26/2016 11:34:07 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Hillary Clinton stood next to the coffin of an American soldier and lied to his parents' face)
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To: TontoKowalski

In all honesty, I think social security is 100% horrible, and the example of your parents proves it. I’ve been against it all my life, but I’m collecting now and I’m not ashamed to say I hope they don’t mess with my check. I just hope I live long enough to get back the money they stole. I’m not changing my tune about SS - I would have done MUCH better if I’d been able to keep that money.

I agree the only real solution is privatization and voluntary phase out.

But there is nothing more stupid than a Republican politician uttering the words “entitlement reform”, thus handing the Democrats the political gift that keeps on giving.

Trump is 100% smart to completely sidestep the issue. If he can fix it later when he’s safely elected, that would be great.


75 posted on 05/26/2016 11:36:12 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: Abiotic

Simply limit ss to retirees as it was originally intended. Instant viability.


76 posted on 05/26/2016 11:39:35 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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To: dp0622

“maybe you can’t cut SS to people already getting it as they need it, but raise the retirement age for those under 40 to 70 and put the SS tax in a REAL lockbox account.”

How about we get all the illegals off of SSN? We can stop the SSN payments for the children of welfare recipients that are getting them for ADHD, ADD, etc...


77 posted on 05/26/2016 11:45:33 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: BlackAdderess

In WWII there were plenty of rich people who used their money to buy deferments for their kids to keep them out of combat.

There were also plenty of rich people who sent their children into harms way, because they loved their country and considered it their duty as Americans.

There’s no reason to think that ALL rich people are globalists. I’d wager there are still plenty who are patriotic Americans who love their country.


78 posted on 05/26/2016 11:49:14 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Hillary Clinton stood next to the coffin of an American soldier and lied to his parents' face)
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To: ifinnegan

“Leftist rhetoric. What fun.”

Trump is using their rhetoric against them.

For decades the left has said it wants to help workers, but what has it really offered them? Communism & jobs shipped overseas. Everyone either works for the government or is on the dole. The definition of shared misery.

Trump is saying he will help workers by bringing jobs back to America by making capitalism work again. A very different worker’s program.

Actually, you could say Trump is offering the American worker a “New Deal” because the old deal—the Democrat’s deal—isn’t working any more.


79 posted on 05/26/2016 11:57:10 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Hillary Clinton stood next to the coffin of an American soldier and lied to his parents' face)
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To: Cyberman

You want 75-year-olds navigating 18-wheelers down the same highway where you drive?),
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Kinda broadbrushing it there aren’t you?

All 75 yos are not the ‘wrapped in a blanket’ needing help getting into the car in the middle of July.

That is like me saying people with cyber in their ‘name’ don’t have anything to say that would interest a whole lot of people.


80 posted on 05/26/2016 12:07:36 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Pols headstone- Please bury me not so deep so I can continue to fleece the sheep")
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