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Hot Air: Democrats Work With Big Tobacco and Big Pharma to Choke the Vaping Industry
New York Observer ^ | 2 June 2016 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 06/02/2016 7:30:24 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer

Meet the strange bedfellows against vaping: drug and tobacco companies, health advocates and Democratic lawmakers. A convergence of interests among these four lies behind the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) announcement on May 5 that e-cigarettes will be regulated as rigorously as tobacco beginning in August.

Vaping advocates say the cost of FDA approvals will bankrupt an industry that might vastly improve public health. This spring, a major study from the Royal College of Physicians, the British equivalent of the Office of the Surgeon General, found e-cigarettes to be 95 percent less harmful than cigarettes.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: democrats; norquist; tobacco; vaping
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Vaping is largely harmless. That's why Democrats are collaborating with their big corporate buddies to stomp it out.
1 posted on 06/02/2016 7:30:24 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer
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Yep, I predicted this one.

Dem’s want the taxes and shorter life spans.


2 posted on 06/02/2016 7:31:41 AM PDT by G Larry (Avoiding the Truth-Hillary's only expertise)
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Big gubmint and big tobacco joined forces to crush the ‘roll your own’ business. Shops were opening up, where you could buy sleeves, filters, and bulk tobacco...stuff them into a machine...and presto it would roll a carton’s worth in a minute. Very cheap, and often at a lower tax rate.

So big tobacco started lobbying states (state fire marshals) to require that the paper sleeves would burn themselves out, if not puffed on...and said sleeves had to go through a gazillion dollar testing process first.

Very similar formula. With all the cig taxes, gubmint and the tobacco companies have a symbiotic relationship.


3 posted on 06/02/2016 7:35:08 AM PDT by lacrew
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The message is...... if you must smoke, smoke pot


4 posted on 06/02/2016 7:36:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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No! No! No! They are not seeking to destroy but to TAX. It is “demonize profitize.” When the tax rate on tobacco product reaches $15.00 to $20.00 per pack one will start seeing articles "proving" tobacco is harmless./p>
5 posted on 06/02/2016 7:39:09 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Tobacco companies USED TO BE huge Republican donors. I mean huge.

And so the democrats targeted them for take-down.

If the tobacco companies had been huge Democrat donors, I guarantee that you all would have learned in school about the healthful benefits of “bathing your lungs in cleansing smoke”


6 posted on 06/02/2016 7:40:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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The damn left has control of all healthcare rules with Obama’s czars, and; I can flat out tell you veterans from wars before this current one and Desert Storm were not the big time druggies OD’ing from VA drugs. This crap has been going on since about 2006 or later. Now, the damn VA has cut most Viet vets and Korean War vets living off of opioids if they are in a state with high abuse like Tennessee. They went crazy in May 2014 and took any vet on pain meds off of any benzo even if it was to keep one’s BP from causing a stoke or heart attack during a panic attack etc. Vets with pain are in deep kimche if they need over x amount of morphine equivalents to function.


7 posted on 06/02/2016 7:43:26 AM PDT by Lumper20
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WHY LIBERALS ARE SUCH MISERABLE HORSES ASSES

Everything is political with Democrats.

They cannot stand to see anyone living in ways that are not in conformance with their leftist utopian agenda.

They are so busy trying to control every thing and every one that they don’t have time to actually enjoy a life of free thinking and independent action themselves.

If a conservative sees someone engaging in a legal act that they don’t care for they accept it as an aspect of a free society.

If a democrat sees someone engaging in a legal act that they don’t care for they scheme and plot for ways to force that person to stop what they are doing.


8 posted on 06/02/2016 7:46:04 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Islam is Islam. Democracy is the train we ride to our ultimate victory. President Recep Erdogan)
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The vaping industry has it’s nerve to create job and make smoking safer without paying bribes to the democrat shakedown artists in the US Congress. I mean really, the nerve.


9 posted on 06/02/2016 7:46:23 AM PDT by stockpirate (Flush Limbaigh a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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‘e-cigarettes will be regulated as rigorously as tobacco beginning in August.’

So let’s talk about that. Does the FDA require that any new cigarette brand on the market submit to a $300,000 approval process? $100,000 for any new blend of tobacco in that brand’s cigarette?

Of course not.

The FDA has made a series of decisions that effectively drop it into the hands of a few big companies.

To put it in similar terms, since to many this whole ‘vaping’ thing is a bit of a mystery, the FDA just required anyone who sells caffeinated beverages to only sell those which have been submitted to the FDA for testing to ensure what was declared in the ingredients is actually there.

All coffee shops which add flavorings must pay the FDA $300,000 for the right to do so, and each flavor addition must be submitted for review along with $100,000 to ensure that the product contains caffeine and carries the appropriate warning label and the listed ingredients. Once approved, they must submit regular samples of each batch made, along with $25,000. Only pre-packaged flavored coffee shall be permitted to be sold; preparations while the customer is present, or following a customer’s request, will result in multi-million dollar fines.

While I could possibly see these types of requirements being put on the companies that sell the base liquid that contains nicotine (and that entire industry has long been ready and prepared for that level of regulation, as that was what was expected), to put the onus of regulation on the largely mom & pop level is just maniacally insane.

The end result, of course, will be more people turning back to cigarettes. Which will of course increase the tax revenue on cigarettes so that people can make more ads and laws against cigarettes.


10 posted on 06/02/2016 7:49:16 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Just a FWIW -

Two very major diseases which nicotine prevents or delays are increasing rapidly at a horrendous cost to families and government.

The demonization of tobacco and smoking has had tragic unintended consequences.

http://www.alz.org/facts/

http://www.pdf.org/en/science_news/release/pr_1216654001


11 posted on 06/02/2016 7:49:41 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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They are not seeking to destroy but to TAX.

If the goal was to tax, they wouldn't have made it so that any location which mixes the base liquid with flavors would have to submit $300,000 + $100,000 per mixture. That's destroy, pure and simple. Thou shalt not mix liquids.

12 posted on 06/02/2016 7:52:17 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Nicotine is not harmless, but vaping it is far less harmful than getting it through smoking cigarettes as you are avoiding all the other crap. But Nicotine is still a drug and still has risks.


13 posted on 06/02/2016 7:54:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Mr. K

And gave us Winston cup racing


14 posted on 06/02/2016 7:55:06 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know john 3:16)
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To: IBD editorial writer

This makes no sense at all. Might as well ban steaming dumplings or broccoli.


15 posted on 06/02/2016 7:56:03 AM PDT by Yaelle (Tinkerbelle glittering up the runway for Trump Force One!)
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BIG DONATIONS FOR CONGRESS... THIS IS WHERE THE LITTLE CREEPS GET ALL THEIR MONEY...


16 posted on 06/02/2016 7:58:40 AM PDT by GOPJ (When Hillarys Foundation gets a million only $30K goes to charity. Where's the effing press outrage?)
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I don’t think the government should regulate it, but anything that delivers nicotine into your body is not “harmless”. Nicotine is an addictive drug whose long term use has significant health implications, regardless of how it’s delivered into the bloodstream.


17 posted on 06/02/2016 8:00:28 AM PDT by Scutter
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Vapes, Drones, Ridesharing, all profitable industries must immediately be taken over for the hive.


18 posted on 06/02/2016 8:03:05 AM PDT by The Toll
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Vaping is largely harmless

Except that it has a good chance of turning you into an addict.

19 posted on 06/02/2016 8:06:11 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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Is it your claim that smoking is good for society? Run with that, it’s a winner.


20 posted on 06/02/2016 8:08:49 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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