Yes, they're training with pointed sticks.
Correction: Link is American Thinker
It doesn’t matter what the death toll really is...They got what they asked for when they started their war with America...
Military planners estimated that there would be upwards of 250,000 US soldiers killed and millions of Japanese killed in an invasion of Japan. Liberals would have us believe that would have been better than ending the war with 2 A bombs.
There was a time when ‘they’ claimed we dropped ‘the big ‘un’ on Japan because they ‘weren’t White’.
Seems the folks in 1945 Dresden would probably not be able to tell the difference.
To be fair this needs to be compared with what a bloodbath in a land invasion would look like. Talking an order or two of magnitude more.
And on TOP of that, the cities in the bombed area were already on bombing candidate lists and had been recently leafleted warning people out of them. The bombed area was chosen NOT for its population BUT for its military production. It wasn’t the US’s fault that a Japanese people, packed like sardines in paper houses, ignored the warnings.
Better than most articles on the topic.
Japan’s Longest Day —one of the best books on the desperate attempts of the Japanese to end the war in the closing days.
They kept trying to recruit the Soviets as an intermediary in arranging a conditional surrender; they knew that the Yalta Conference required the Soviets to participate in the downfall of Japan within 6 months of Hitler’s fall, so they were curious about what kind of role Stalin might play.
Greedy to get his hands on Japan lands (he captured 2 or their islands, which remain in their hands to this day), Stalin of course SIMPLY DIDN’T CALL BACK. Repeatedly.
So the Japanese could see the writing on the wall —Stalin would let them twist in the wind and if the war went on much longer Soviet troops would likely be on the beaches, somehow, somewhere.
The Americans understood the 6 month clock was running, that the Soviets would get involved, and they wanted to keep them out and avoid the type of cutting-up on Europe that was already going on.
The atomic bombs gave the Americans a way to beat the clock and keep the Soviets out.
The Japanese understood if the Soviets were deeply involved their Emperor would share the fate of the Tsar 30 years earlier.
Technically, it wasn't combat. It was dropped from a plane. First ever used in war.
Worth adding to this Discussion: Mike Church did a Great Show on this the other day, Here is some of the material covered: http://www.mikechurch.com/pile-of-prep/wisdom-wednesday-prep-what-really-was-lost-at-hiroshima-nagasaki/
Choose June 1 Segment 1-2 and 3-4 and listen, then ponder, to many fail to think and just react just as they have been programmed to, God gave us free will to Think and Serve Him...
http://veritasradionetwork.com/player/?djpplayer=playlivestream
Were they Leftist or Men in the Know who Held Official Positions and Said it was not necessary?
http://www.filmsforaction.org/news/the-real-reason-america-used-nuclear-weapons-against-japan-it-was-not-to-end-the-war-or-save-lives/
How is Killing Hundreds of Thousands Just War? It is Barbarian and that is something We have forgotten because to many are falling under the spell of Nationalism. Not Good for the Soul!
God Bless
They also conveniently forget to mention that the only President to use atomic weapons was a Democrat...
If he had been a Republican, we would hear or read about it every time Hiroshima was mentioned.
The most devastating air raid in history was done with
conventional weapons
On night of March 9-10 1945, 334 B 29 hit Tokyo. Aided by
strong winds the incendiaries dropped by the bombers burned
out some 16 square miles and left estimated 100,000 people
dead......
For the next 6 months B 29 using incendiary bombs destroyed
60 Japanese cities and left hundreds of thousands dead
or severely injured
Most people have forgotten about this
I am fine with all the bombing on Japan. They started it.
Yes, they're training with pointed sticks.
I don’t know why some ninnies like to refight wars that are long over. Liberal idiots, I wish they’d all jump in a lake.
March 9-10, 1945: The U.S. incendiary raid on Tokyo burned 15 square miles of the city. Estimates of the death toll normally specify 100,000 killed and half the industry destroyed.
April 1, 1945: Allies invaded Okinawa.
May 8, 1945: Germany surrendered.
June, 1945: Preparation for Operation Downfall began in earnest. Downfall was the invasion of Japan. Fourteen divisions in Operation Olympic would attack Kyushu, which is not the main Japanese island, on November 1, 1945. Forty divisions of Operation Coronet would attack Tokyo in March of 1946. U.S. soldiers sent home from Europe went to camps in the U.S. where they prepared to invade Japan. My father was one of these soldiers.
June 22, 1945: The remaining Japanese forces on Okinawa surrendered to the Allies. The Allies lost 12,000 men killed. The common estimate of Japanese soldiers killed is 100,000. The civilian population of Okinawa was 300,000. Estimates of civilian deaths range between 40,000 and 150,000. Thousands of these people were executed by the Japanese or forced to commit suicide.
July 11, 1945: Japanese ambassador Naotake Sato met with the Soviets to try to negotiate peace. World War I ended with a negotiated peace. It led directly to World War II. Roosevelt and Truman were smart enough not to repeat that mistake.
July, 1945: Japan continued to arrest anyone who possessed one of the 63,000,000 leaflets dropped on their country that warned we would continue to bomb them until they surrendered.
August 6, 1945: The U.S. Army Air Force exploded a nuclear bomb over Hiroshima, Japan.
August 6, 1945: Despite the suggestion that Japan would surrender if the bomb exploded over an unpopulated island visible from Tokyo, Japan did not surrender when 80,000 people died at Hiroshima.
August 9, 1945: The U.S. Army Air Force exploded a nuclear bomb over Nagasaki, Japan.
August 9, 1945: Despite the suggestion that Japan would surrender if the bomb exploded over an unpopulated island visible from Tokyo, Japan did not surrender when an additional 60,000 people died at Nagasaki.
August 14, 1945: The Japanese war council agrees to surrender.
August 14, 1945: Kenji Hatanaka attempted a coup d'etat to prevent Hirohito from announcing surrender.
August 15, 1945: Emperor Hirohito announced the surrender to the Japanese people:
After pondering deeply the general trends of the world and the actual conditions obtaining in Our Empire today, We have decided to effect a settlement of the present situation by resorting to an extraordinary measure.
We have ordered Our Government to communicate to the Governments of the United States, Great Britain, China and the Soviet Union that Our Empire accepts the provisions of their Joint Declaration.
To strive for the common prosperity and happiness of all nations as well as the security and well-being of Our subjects is the solemn obligation which has been handed down by Our Imperial Ancestors and which lies close to Our heart.
Indeed, We declared war on America and Britain out of Our sincere desire to ensure Japan's self-preservation and the stabilization of East Asia, it being far from Our thought either to infringe upon the sovereignty of other nations or to embark upon territorial aggrandizement.
But now the war has lasted for nearly four years. Despite the best that has been done by everyone—the gallant fighting of the military and naval forces, the diligence and assiduity of Our servants of the State, and the devoted service of Our one hundred million people—the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage, while the general trends of the world have all turned against her interest.
Moreover, the enemy has begun to employ a new and most cruel bomb, the power of which to do damage is, indeed, incalculable, taking the toll of many innocent lives. Should we continue to fight, not only would it result in an ultimate collapse and obliteration of the Japanese nation, but also it would lead to the total extinction of human civilization.
Hirohito said they surrendered because they got nuked.
He also said the war was because Japan wanted peace but not to take territory or interfere with sovereign states. They invaded Korea before the war, then they invaded China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Maraya, Borneo, Brunei, The Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Myanmar, East Timor, New Guinea, Guam, Nauru, Wake, Attu, Kiska, and Kiribati.
According to the emperor, they just didn't mean it. That rat should have been strung up right next to Tojo.