[Vigilanteman]

Joe Frazier still bested him.

And George Foreman gave us that cool grill.

[dfwgator]

Yep, while Ali was running his mouth, here was George.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Joe Frazier still bested him.***

Yet Frasier still lost. He landed ONE BLOW so hard on Ali that it left him permanently brain damaged and punch drunk.

[elcid1970]

I will take the soft-spoken Joe Louis and the affable George Foreman (own his grill) over the loudmouth Cassius Clay any day of the week.

[affan76]

I have a picture in my office. It is the only one that is not of my family. It is of Joe Frazier after throwing a left hook and Ali tumbling to the mat. I spent an evening with Joe Frazier about 10 years ago. I can tell you that he had no love for Ali. Was it because of his W/L against Ali no. He referred to every champion as Champ: Champ Louis, Champ Marciano, Champ Foreman, etc. He referred to Ali as Clay. His said history will forget that Clay stood outside his hotel window in Manila and yelled: “Hey monkey come on out” or Clay calling Frazier a “monkey” in the press. Frazier always wondered why Clay would denigrate a black man who always tried to act with dignity. By the way, the answer to a question: did you ever fear anyone in the ring? He initially said no then looked away and said “Champ Foreman, he was a big man”